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ASN assignment criteria revisited

Start here for the proposal-by-proposal record: what changed, why it mattered, who argued for what, how positions evolved, what was decided, and where the evidence still has gaps.

Source facts

Policy ID
2025-01
RIR
RIPE NCC
Official status
Withdrawn
Normalized status
Withdrawn
Introduced
May 6, 2025
Last source update
Nov 3, 2026
Coverage
Partial

Who actually shaped the debate?

10Total participants
8Discussion contributors
2Formal actors
32Discussion messages
5.8Effective participants
84.4%Top-five discussion share
3People covering 50%
5People covering 80%

BTW Analysis

BTW Analysis

What changed

The proposal would have removed justification for a first ASN while retaining conditions for additional ASNs. Version 1.0 was published on 6 May 2025; version 2.0, on 16 October 2025, clarified routing-policy documentation, use and review conditions for additional ASNs. The proposal was withdrawn on 6 July 2026, so these proposed changes are not evidence of implementation.

What the debate was really about

The draft discussion concerned the boundary between easier access and verifiable routing needs: whether multihoming was an enforceable requirement, how additional ASNs should be justified, and what operational evidence could support those rules. Requests for data and wording changes were not necessarily opposition to simpler access.

Arguments that prevailed

  • No winning argument is established. The later draft retained simpler first-ASN access alongside additional-ASN controls, but retaining wording is not proof of community consensus.

Arguments that did not prevail

  • Withdrawal does not establish that any particular argument was rejected. The available record does not identify a vote or a reason for withdrawal.

Decision vs debate

The 32 linked messages are a draft discussion from 29 March to 2 April 2025, preceding both published versions. They cannot be counted as votes on the October text or as an explanation for the July 2026 withdrawal. Withdrawal is a procedural outcome, not evidence that the proposal became policy.

Participation concentration

Eight people contributed the 32 messages. The five most frequent contributors accounted for 84.4% of messages. That concentration describes who spoke most, not who represented all affected operators or had authority to decide the outcome.

Chokepoint analysis

Had the proposal been adopted, the first-ASN justification checkpoint would have been removed while review remained for additional ASNs. The trade-off was less friction at entry against continued scrutiny of subsequent requests. Withdrawal means this shift in administrative discretion cannot be reported as an observed change.

Uncertainties

  • The reason for withdrawal, any successor proposal and the operative rules afterward are not established here.
  • The discussion does not establish changes in issuance, refusals, routing-table size or fees. Changes in message labels alone do not prove a reversal of a person's position.

Policy evolution

2.0
Oct 16, 2025
Source facts ↗

General ASN requirements separated from additional-ASN requests · Version 2 places a unique external routing policy, a RIPE Database routing-policy entry and third-party peering under a general ASNs are required to heading, then separately lists what an additional-ASN applicant must provide. The first ASN remains available without application justification. That does not mean the revised operative text exempts the first ASN from every operational requirement, despite the broader wording retained in the rationale.

Routing-policy registration and off-GRT documentation · The old wording requests a routing policy for an ASN intended to appear in the global routing table and recommends RPSL. Version 2 instead requires a policy defined in the RIPE Database in the general ASN conditions and omits the explicit RPSL recommendation. Documentation of a non-visible purpose remains required for an ASN used outside the global routing table.

Six-month use expectation and intermittent use · Version 2 replaces the mandatory fulfilment of approved application criteria within six months with a should-be-in-use expectation over the same period. It describes intermittent research, measurement and event uses as subject to RIPE NCC discretion and still requires a benefit statement. The interval is unchanged, while the wording and the explicit discretion differ.

Justification for leaving existing ASNs inactive · Version 2 explicitly requires an additional-ASN requester to explain why inactive existing ASNs cannot be used. Approval may still depend on compliance by existing ASNs, now expressly at RIPE NCC discretion; the old separate reference to up-to-date documentation in that approval sentence is removed.

Detailed verification procedure omitted · Version 2 omits the old instructions to verify visible ASNs through the global routing table, request operational proof for off-table ASNs, and treat insufficient proof as failure. It retains discretion over approval based on existing ASN requirements. The omission changes the prescribed verification detail; it does not establish that RIPE NCC can no longer check compliance.

Debate timeline

  1. Public discussion

    [address-policy-wg] DRAFT ASN assignment critera revisited

    32 Discussion messages · 8 Entities

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  2. Introduced

    Introduced

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  3. Official version

    1.0

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  4. Official version

    2.0

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  5. Official decision

    withdrawn

    withdrawn

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