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Modification of transfer policies

Start here for the proposal-by-proposal record: what changed, why it mattered, who argued for what, how positions evolved, what was decided, and where the evidence still has gaps.

Source facts

Policy ID
prop-130
RIR
APNIC
Official status
Abandoned at APNIC 51
Normalized status
Abandoned
Introduced
Mar 14, 2019
Last source update
Oct 12, 2026
Coverage
Partial

Who actually shaped the debate?

9Total participants
9Discussion contributors
1Formal actors
19Discussion messages
4.5Effective participants
78.9%Top-five discussion share
2People covering 50%
6People covering 80%

Policy evolution

v002
Unknown
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IPv4 inter-RIR transfer reciprocity requirement · For IPv4 transfers, the counterpart RIR requirement changes from having a policy that allows the transfer to having a reciprocal policy or procedure that allows it.

IPv6 inter-RIR transfer reciprocity requirement · For IPv6 transfers, the counterpart RIR requirement changes from having a policy that allows the transfer to having a reciprocal policy or procedure that allows it.

ASN inter-RIR transfer reciprocity requirement · For ASN transfers, the counterpart RIR requirement changes from having a policy that allows the transfer to having a reciprocal policy or procedure that allows it.

Stated advantages · The stated advantage that the proposal would encourage waiting-list members to implement IPv6 is removed; only fulfillment of the indicated objectives remains.

Stated disadvantages · The disadvantages assessment changes from none foreseen to a possible risk of further disaggregation, especially in IPv6, described as rare, negligible in impact, and justified by documentation provided to the secretariat.

v003
Unknown
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Policy text · Astra identified a substantive wording change in this retained policy section.

Policy text · Astra identified a substantive wording change in this retained policy section.

Policy text · Astra identified a substantive wording change in this retained policy section.

Policy text · Astra identified a substantive wording change in this retained policy section.

Policy text · Astra identified a substantive wording change in this retained policy section.

Policy text · Astra identified a substantive wording change in this retained policy section.

Policy text · Astra identified a substantive wording change in this retained policy section.

Policy text · Astra identified a substantive wording change in this retained policy section.

Policy text · Astra identified a substantive wording change in this retained policy section.

Policy text · Astra identified a substantive wording change in this retained policy section.

Policy text · Astra identified a substantive wording change in this retained policy section.

Policy text · Astra identified a substantive wording change in this retained policy section.

Debate timeline

  1. Official version

    v001

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  2. Official version

    v002

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  3. Official version

    v003

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  4. Introduced

    Introduced

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  5. Public discussion

    Re: [sig-policy] Policy Proposal: prop-130-v001: Modification of transfer policies

    4 Discussion messages · 3 Entities

    Source facts 1 ↗Source facts 2 ↗Source facts 3 ↗Source facts 4 ↗
  6. Public discussion

    [sig-policy] prop-130-v002: Secretariat impact assessment

    3 Discussion messages · 3 Entities

    Source facts 1 ↗Source facts 2 ↗Source facts 3 ↗
  7. Public discussion

    Re: [sig-policy] prop-130-v003: Modification of transfer policies

    6 Discussion messages · 3 Entities

    Source facts 1 ↗Source facts 2 ↗Source facts 3 ↗Source facts 4 ↗Source facts 5 ↗Source facts 6 ↗
  8. Official decision

    abandoned

    abandoned

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Entities

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  1. Discussion messages8
    First activitySep 9, 2019
    Last activityMar 3, 2021
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyInsufficient evidence to assess consistency
    Other policies18
    Freshness: Stale · Last refresh: · The latest refresh failed. The last successful result is shown.

    Identity verified: Oct 11, 2026

    The IPv6 Company · Historical
    Name: Jordi Palet Martínez Email: [email protected] Organization: The IPv6 Company
    politicas.lacnic.net
    Discussion messages
    8
    First activity
    Sep 9, 2019
    Last activity
    Mar 3, 2021
    First explicit stance
    Unknown
    Latest explicit stance
    Unknown
    Stance changes
    0
    Viewpoint consistency
    Insufficient evidence to assess consistency
    Other policies
    18

    First explicit stance: Unknown → Latest explicit stance: Unknown · Stance changes: 0

    Viewpoint consistency: Insufficient evidence to assess consistency

    Jordi Palet's two January 2022 interventions seek a sound basis for decisions: a broader Policy SIG discussion where views remain divided, and Secretariat input on unresolved questions about historical resources. These are compatible procedural positions. One intervention per proposal does not establish a history of substantive support, opposition or reversal.

    Experimental Allocations – no reservation for IPv4

    Assessment: Insufficient evidence to assess consistency · Palet calls for the disputed experimental-allocation issue to reach the broader Policy SIG. He does not claim that consensus already exists or state a final vote on the allocation rule. This single procedural intervention cannot establish a change of position.

    Conditions: The call to determine consensus is distinct from evidence that consensus was achieved.

    it is neccesary to have the discussion in a broader community, the Policy SIG.

    Recovery of unused historical resources

    Assessment: Insufficient evidence to assess consistency · On recovery of historical resources, Palet requests Secretariat input, particularly on legal questions. Asking for that information leaves the substantive recovery decision open; it is not an endorsement of a particular legal interpretation.

    Conditions: No later answer or explicit final policy preference is supplied.

    especially the legal aspects. May be in this case, is not just the chairs but the secretariat who should provide some inputs.

    Experimental Allocations – no reservation for IPv4 · Recovery of unused historical resources

    Assessment: Consistent · Seeking wider community deliberation on one proposal and specialist Secretariat input on another are compatible ways to resolve different decision gaps. Neither message assigns the Secretariat authority to replace community consensus. The comparison supports procedural compatibility, not a shared substantive vote on the two policies.

    Conditions: The proposals raise different questions and each is represented by one message.

    It is the only way to determine consensus in a PDP valid way.

    the secretariat who should provide some inputs.

    1. Sep 9, 2019 · Unknown

      Re: [sig-policy] Policy Proposal: prop-130-v001: Modification of transfer policies

      Validated evidence is unavailable.

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    2. Sep 9, 2019 · Unknown

      Re: [sig-policy] Policy Proposal: prop-130-v001: Modification of transfer policies

      Validated evidence is unavailable.

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    3. Feb 16, 2020 · Unknown

      Re: [sig-policy] prop-130-v002: Secretariat impact assessment

      Validated evidence is unavailable.

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    4. Feb 18, 2020 · Unknown

      Re: [sig-policy] prop-130-v002: Secretariat impact assessment

      Validated evidence is unavailable.

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    5. Feb 17, 2021 · Unknown

      Re: [sig-policy] prop-130-v003: Modification of transfer policies

      Validated evidence is unavailable.

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    6. Mar 1, 2021 · Unknown

      Re: [sig-policy] prop-130-v003: Modification of transfer policies

      Validated evidence is unavailable.

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    7. Mar 2, 2021 · Unknown

      Re: [sig-policy] Policy Discussion in bdNOG for APNIC51

      Validated evidence is unavailable.

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    8. Mar 3, 2021 · Unknown

      Re: [sig-policy] prop-130-v003: Modification of transfer policies

      Validated evidence is unavailable.

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    Total policy messages: 141

  2. Srinivas Chendi · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages2
    First activityFeb 14, 2020
    Last activityFeb 17, 2021
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies23
  3. chku · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages2
    First activityAug 10, 2020
    Last activityFeb 2, 2021
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies4
  4. Unknown · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages2
    First activityMar 1, 2021
    Last activityMar 2, 2021
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies3
  5. Bertrand Cherrier · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages1
    First activityFeb 24, 2020
    Last activityFeb 24, 2020
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies18
  6. Tsurumaki, Satoru · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages1
    First activityFeb 17, 2020
    Last activityFeb 17, 2020
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies4
  7. Satoru Tsurumaki · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages1
    First activitySep 2, 2019
    Last activitySep 2, 2019
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies14
  8. Hiroki Kawabata · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages1
    First activitySep 6, 2019
    Last activitySep 6, 2019
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies8
  9. bdNOG Secretariat · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages1
    First activityMar 2, 2021
    Last activityMar 2, 2021
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies2

Sources and coverage

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  • www.apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
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