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Keep IPv6 PI When Requesting IPv6 Allocation

Start here for the proposal-by-proposal record: what changed, why it mattered, who argued for what, how positions evolved, what was decided, and where the evidence still has gaps.

Source facts

Policy ID
2015-02
RIR
RIPE NCC
Official status
Accepted
Normalized status
Accepted
Introduced
Apr 10, 2015
Last source update
Oct 11, 2026
Coverage
Partial

Who actually shaped the debate?

1Total participants
UnknownDiscussion contributors
1Formal actors
UnknownDiscussion messages
UnknownEffective participants
UnknownTop-five discussion share
UnknownPeople covering 50%
UnknownPeople covering 80%

BTW Analysis

BTW Analysis

What changed

Proposal 2015-02, “Keep IPv6 PI When Requesting IPv6 Allocation,” sought to remove the provision that required an organisation to return IPv6 PI obtained before becoming an LIR when receiving an IPv6 allocation, unless distinct routing requirements justified keeping both. If implemented as written, it would let affected operators retain deployed PI while obtaining an allocation. The proposal was introduced on 10 April 2015 and recorded as accepted on 10 August 2015; acceptance alone does not establish implementation or operational effects.

What the debate was really about

The proposal framed a choice between continuity and deployment flexibility for organisations with existing IPv6 PI, and limiting duplicate prefixes where routing requirements did not justify both resources. Its supporters argued that the return condition could force costly renumbering or encourage recourse to IPv4 or another LIR’s space. The opposing concern was routing-table growth. The proposal also acknowledged that the outcome could depend on the order in which an organisation obtained PI and an allocation.

Arguments that prevailed

  • The proposal was recorded as accepted. The supplied evidence does not provide a decision rationale or show which arguments determined that outcome.

Decision vs debate

The recorded decision was acceptance on 10 August 2015. The supplied version evidence contains version 1.0, published on 10 April 2015, but no later draft. The policy text describes the proposed change, not proof that it became operative. The proposal’s arguments are its own framing; they do not establish that multiple participants debated those positions or that a consensus process was representative.

Participation concentration

The supplied participation metrics report zero messages, zero discussion participants and zero active days, alongside one formal actor and one total participant. With no message activity, the zero message-share and concentration measures cannot be read as evidence of evenly distributed participation. These figures do not establish support or opposition, broad authorization, or representativeness; the record does not distinguish an absence of discussion from incomplete coverage.

Chokepoint analysis

If implemented as written, removing the return condition would shift the choice for affected pre-LIR PI holders toward retaining deployed space when receiving an allocation. It would also preserve the sequence distinction identified in the proposal: a pre-LIR PI holder could end up with both resources, while an allocation-first LIR would still need distinct routing requirements to obtain PI. The proposal identifies possible routing-table costs and possible renumbering, IPv4-fragmentation, or deployment costs, but the supplied evidence does not measure or resolve those effects.

Uncertainties

  • The supplied evidence does not establish whether or when the accepted proposal was incorporated into operative policy.
  • The zero-message metrics may reflect no recorded discussion or incomplete source coverage; the evidence does not distinguish between those possibilities.
  • The proposal’s claims about renumbering, IPv6 deployment, IPv4 alternatives and routing-table effects are not tested by outcome data in the supplied record.
  • The identity and role of the single formal actor, and the decision process behind acceptance, are not supplied.

Policy evolution

Debate timeline

  1. Introduced

    Introduced

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  2. Official version

    1.0

    Accepted · Accepted

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  3. Official decision

    accepted

    accepted

    Source facts ↗

Entities

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Sources and coverage

Official policy sources

Public discussion archives

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  • ripencc-ncc-announce-ripe.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • ripencc-ncc-services-wg-ripe.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • ripencc-nccdays-pc-ripe.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
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  • ripencc-persian-lir-ripe.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • ripencc-policy-announce-ripe.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • ripencc-raci-list-ripe.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • ripencc-regional-russia-ripe.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • ripencc-regional-ukraine-ripe.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • ripencc-ripe-atlas-ambassadors-ripe.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • ripencc-ripe-atlas-tools-maintainers-ripe.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • ripencc-ripe-atlas-ripe.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • ripencc-ripe-chair-discuss-ripe.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • ripencc-ripe-db-requirements-tf-ripe.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • ripencc-ripe-forum-test-ripe.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • ripencc-ripe-list-unmoderated-ripe.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • ripencc-ripe-list-ripe.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • ripencc-ripe-parents-ripe.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • ripencc-ripecast-ripe.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • ripencc-rirs-lea-ripe.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • ripencc-ris-int-ripe.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • ripencc-ris-users-ripe.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • ripencc-routing-wg-ripe.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • ripencc-rpslng-ripe.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • ripencc-security-wg-ripe.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • ripencc-see-regional-ripe.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • ripencc-techsec-wg-ripe.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • ripencc-tld-wg-ripe.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • ripencc-tt-tf-ripe.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.