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ARIN-prop-10: PI assignments for V6

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Source facts

Policy ID
ARIN-prop-10
RIR
ARIN
Official status
Implemented
Normalized status
Accepted
Introduced
Dec 2, 2004
Last source update
Oct 13, 2026
Coverage
Partial

Who actually shaped the debate?

9Total participants
9Discussion contributors
UnknownFormal actors
20Discussion messages
6.3Effective participants
80%Top-five discussion share
3People covering 50%
5People covering 80%

Policy evolution

Debate timeline

  1. Introduced

    Introduced

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  2. Public discussion

    [ppml] Proposed Policy: PI assignments for V6

    8 Discussion messages · 5 Entities

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  3. Public discussion

    [ppml] Proposed Policy: PI assignments for V6

    3 Discussion messages · 3 Entities

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  4. Public discussion

    [ppml] Proposed Policy: PI assignments for V6

    2 Discussion messages · 2 Entities

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  5. Public discussion

    [ppml] Proposed Policy: PI assignments for V6

    2 Discussion messages · 2 Entities

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  6. Public discussion

    [ppml] Policy Proposal 2005-1: Provider-independent IPv6

    2 Discussion messages · 2 Entities

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Entities

Freshness: Stale
  1. marcelo bagnulo braun · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages5
    First activityDec 7, 2004
    Last activityDec 9, 2004
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies2
  2. da Silva, Ron · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages4
    First activityDec 9, 2004
    Last activityDec 9, 2004
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies0
  3. Discussion messages3
    First activityDec 8, 2004
    Last activityApr 27, 2006
    First explicit stanceSupport
    Latest explicit stanceSupport
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo validated consistency assessment
    Other policies9
    Freshness: Stale

    Last research attempt: Sep 26, 2026

    Identity verified: Sep 26, 2026

    Polycom, Inc. · Historical
    I’m Stephen Sprunk, Polycom.
    www.arin.net
    Discussion messages
    3
    First activity
    Dec 8, 2004
    Last activity
    Apr 27, 2006
    First explicit stance
    Support
    Latest explicit stance
    Support
    Stance changes
    0
    Viewpoint consistency
    No validated consistency assessment
    Other policies
    9

    First explicit stance: Support → Latest explicit stance: Support · Stance changes: 0

    Viewpoint consistency: No validated consistency assessment

    1. Dec 8, 2004 · Unknown

      [ppml] Provider Independence???

      Validated evidence is unavailable.

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    2. Dec 9, 2004 · Unknown

      [ppml] Proposed Policy: PI assignments for V6

      Validated evidence is unavailable.

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    3. Apr 27, 2006 · Support

      [ppml] Policy Proposal 2005-1: Provider-independent IPv6

      IMHO, we're trying to meet a real business need that ARIN members and the … community at large are faced with. I think you're right in a sense that … many folks don't think 2005-1 is the ideal policy, but that's not quite the … same as saying we're doing it for the sake of doing it. … In the real world, one often has to choose the least bad from among many bad … alternatives (and no good ones). Consensus is that 2005-1 is less bad than … having no PIv6 policy at all. … Please define "swamp". If each AS gets a single PIv6 prefix, is that really … a swamp? One of the major problems with v4 was that a single org would get … dozens (or hundreds) of separate blocks; we're definitely not repeating that … mistake. We're also not repeating the mistake of handing out blocks without … any sort of oversight or "renewal" process. … There's no explicit limit on the number of prefixes to be assigned under … this policy, but the intent is that it be no more than the number of ASNs … assigned. At worst, this means PIv6 will present an order of magnitude … fewer routes than PIv4; i.e. as long as v4 is still alive, v6 will not be … the problem. … In short, we may be making a mistake here, but if so it's very different … from the mistakes we made with v4. … If PIv6 space becomes a serious operational concern to folks in the DFZ, … they can simply filter the entire space since it's to be from a distinct … block from LIR allocations. This is another major difference from PIv4, … where ISPs had no way of knowing what was PA and what was PI. … IANAL, but I'm pretty sure that if 2005-1 were repealed, ARIN could refuse … to renew PIv6 assignments and they'd all be gone within a year. There's … even other language in the NRPM that states ARIN can, in extreme cases, … revoke assignments and/or allocations that violate policy, so this isn't … something new.

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    Total policy messages: 19

  4. Discussion messages3
    First activityDec 8, 2004
    Last activityDec 9, 2004
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies15
  5. Michel Py · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages1
    First activityDec 8, 2004
    Last activityDec 8, 2004
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies3
  6. Kurt Erik Lindqvist · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages1
    First activityDec 10, 2004
    Last activityDec 10, 2004
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies1
  7. Unknown · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages1
    First activityDec 9, 2004
    Last activityDec 9, 2004
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies13
  8. Discussion messages1
    First activityDec 8, 2004
    Last activityDec 8, 2004
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies4
  9. Discussion messages1
    First activityApr 27, 2006
    Last activityApr 27, 2006
    First explicit stanceOppose
    Latest explicit stanceOppose
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo validated consistency assessment
    Other policies2

Sources and coverage

Official policy sources

Public discussion archives

  • arin-ppml
    Earliest captured
    Sep 1, 1999
    Latest captured
    Oct 8, 2026
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  • www.arin.net
  • arin-arin-announce
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  • arin-arin-consult
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  • arin-arin-discuss
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  • arin-arin-ppml
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  • arin-arin-rpki-pilot
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    Oct 13, 2026
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  • arin-arin-suggestions
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  • arin-arin-tech-discuss
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  • arin-clew
    Earliest captured
    May 6, 1999
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    Nov 7, 2002
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  • arin-dbwg
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    Apr 22, 1999
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    Dec 30, 2004
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  • arin-iana-transition
    Earliest captured
    Oct 13, 2014
    Latest captured
    Jun 9, 2016
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  • arin-icp2_review
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    Apr 14, 2025
    Latest captured
    Nov 10, 2025
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  • arin-naipr
    Earliest captured
    Jan 1, 1997
    Latest captured
    Nov 3, 1997
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    Oct 13, 2026
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  • arin-nrr-blueprint
    Earliest captured
    Oct 9, 2002
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    Oct 29, 2002
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  • arin-policy
    Earliest captured
    Oct 12, 1999
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    Mar 26, 2003
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  • arin-rtma
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    Apr 18, 2000
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  • arin-services-wg
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    Apr 20, 2016
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  • arin-v6wg
    Earliest captured
    Nov 8, 2000
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    Mar 1, 2005
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  • arin-vwp
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    Jul 10, 2001
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  • arin-general-members
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Coverage

Partial
Earliest captured: Jan 1, 1997
Latest captured: Oct 13, 2026

Freshness

Freshness: Stale · Last refresh:

Known gaps

  • www.arin.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • www.arin.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • arin-ppml: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • www.arin.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • arin-arin-announce: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • arin-arin-consult: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • arin-arin-discuss: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • arin-arin-issued: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • arin-arin-ppml: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • arin-arin-regrws: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • arin-arin-suggestions: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • arin-arin-tech-discuss: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • arin-clew: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • arin-dbwg: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • arin-iana-transition: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • arin-naipr: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • arin-policy: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • arin-rtma: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • arin-services-wg: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • arin-v6wg: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • arin-vwp: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • arin-general-members: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.