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APNIC · RIR Watchdog

No need policy in APNIC region

Start here for the proposal-by-proposal record: what changed, why it mattered, who argued for what, how positions evolved, what was decided, and where the evidence still has gaps.

Source facts

Policy ID
prop-118
RIR
APNIC
Official status
Abandoned at APNIC 47
Normalized status
Abandoned
Introduced
Jan 31, 2017
Last source update
Oct 14, 2026
Coverage
Partial

Who actually shaped the debate?

5Total participants
4Discussion contributors
1Formal actors
4Discussion messages
4Effective participants
100%Top-five discussion share
2People covering 50%
4People covering 80%

Policy evolution

v002
Unknown
Source facts ↗

Proposer · The proposer identified in the supplied old version is David Hilario ([email protected]), while the supplied new version identifies Heng Lu ([email protected]).

Source facts −Validated evidence is unavailable.
Source facts +Validated evidence is unavailable.

Objective of policy change · The supplied new version adds increasing database accuracy to the stated objectives; the supplied old version states only transfer simplification and reduced APNIC staff administration.

Source facts −
------- Simplify transfer of IPv4 space between resource holders. Ease some administration on APNIC staff. 3. Situation in other regions ------------------------------------------------------- RIPE region has an all around no need
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Source facts +
fer of IPv4 space between resource holders. Ease some administration on APNIC staff, increase database accuracy. 3. Situation in other regions ----------------------------- RIPE region has an all around no need policy in IPv4, even for first allocation, transfers do not
Source facts ↗

Transfers from APNIC to another RIR · The supplied new version adds a policy provision stating that APNIC will follow its own service-region transfer policies when transferring resources to another RIR and will comply with commitments imposed by the receiving RIR; no corresponding outbound-transfer provision appears in the supplied old version's proposed solution.

Source facts −Validated evidence is unavailable.
Source facts +Validated evidence is unavailable.

Debate timeline

  1. Official version

    v001

    Source facts ↗

  2. Official version

    v002

    Source facts ↗

  3. Introduced

    Introduced

    Source facts ↗

  4. Official decision

    abandoned

    abandoned

    Source facts ↗

Entities

Freshness: Stale
  1. Bertrand Cherrier · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages1
    First activitySep 17, 2018
    Last activitySep 17, 2018
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies18
  2. Satoru Tsurumaki · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages1
    First activitySep 13, 2017
    Last activitySep 13, 2017
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies14
  3. Hiroki Kawabata · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages1
    First activitySep 5, 2018
    Last activitySep 5, 2018
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies8
  4. chku · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages1
    First activitySep 18, 2017
    Last activitySep 18, 2017
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies17
  5. Heng Lu
    Discussion messages0
    First activityUnknown
    Last activityUnknown
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies0
    Freshness: Stale

    Last research attempt: Sep 19, 2026

    Identity verified: Sep 25, 2026

    · Historical
    Author Heng Lu
    www.apnic.net

    Verified public profiles

    Discussion messages
    0
    First activity
    Unknown
    Last activity
    Unknown
    First explicit stance
    Unknown
    Latest explicit stance
    Unknown
    Stance changes
    0
    Viewpoint consistency
    No explicit position stated
    Other policies
    0

    First explicit stance: Unknown → Latest explicit stance: Unknown · Stance changes: 0

    Viewpoint consistency: No explicit position stated

    1. Aug 13, 2026

      author

      Source facts ↗
    Per-policy stance timelines:prop-118 · Unknown · No explicit position stated

    Total policy messages: 0

Sources and coverage

Official policy sources

Public discussion archives

  • apnic-sig-policy
    Earliest captured
    Jun 1, 2001
    Latest captured
    Sep 21, 2026
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    Aug 13, 2026
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  • apnic-sig-policy
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    Jun 1, 2001
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  • www.apnic.net
  • conference.apnic.net
  • apnic-academy-talk-apnic.net
    Earliest captured
    Jan 12, 2023
    Latest captured
    Jan 19, 2026
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    Oct 14, 2026
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  • apnic-afg-community-apnic.foundation
    Earliest captured
    Sep 27, 2023
    Latest captured
    Jun 24, 2026
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    Oct 14, 2026
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  • apnic-apac-ict-women-apnic.net
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    Oct 22, 2024
    Latest captured
    Aug 11, 2026
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    Oct 14, 2026
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  • apnic-apix-chair-apnic.net
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    Oct 14, 2026
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  • apnic-apix-secretary-apnic.net
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    Oct 13, 2026
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  • apnic-apix-treasurer-apnic.net
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    Oct 14, 2026
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  • apnic-apnic-alumni-apnic.net
    Earliest captured
    Feb 14, 2024
    Latest captured
    Jul 14, 2026
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    Oct 14, 2026
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  • apnic-apnic-announce-apnic.net
    Earliest captured
    Jun 11, 2025
    Latest captured
    Sep 3, 2026
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    Oct 14, 2026
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  • apnic-apnic-foundation-discuss-apnic.foundation
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    Sep 12, 2022
    Latest captured
    Mar 11, 2026
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    Oct 14, 2026
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  • apnic-apnic-services-apnic.net
    Earliest captured
    Aug 31, 2020
    Latest captured
    Aug 4, 2026
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    Oct 14, 2026
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  • apnic-apnic-talk-lists.apnic.net
    Earliest captured
    Apr 15, 2004
    Latest captured
    Sep 8, 2026
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    Oct 14, 2026
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  • apnic-apnic-transfers-apnic.net
    Earliest captured
    Sep 21, 2012
    Latest captured
    Feb 22, 2025
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    Oct 14, 2026
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  • apnic-bgp-stats-lists.apnic.net
    Earliest captured
    Aug 30, 2026
    Latest captured
    Sep 15, 2026
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    Oct 14, 2026
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  • apnic-community-elections-apnic.net
    Earliest captured
    Nov 12, 2021
    Latest captured
    Nov 22, 2021
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    Oct 13, 2026
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  • apnic-community-events-apnic.net
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    May 9, 2025
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    Aug 19, 2025
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    Oct 13, 2026
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  • apnic-diversity-in-leadership-apnic.net
    Earliest captured
    Jun 9, 2026
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    Jul 8, 2026
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    Oct 14, 2026
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  • apnic-ianaxfer-apnic.net
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    Mar 27, 2014
    Latest captured
    Jul 11, 2019
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    Oct 14, 2026
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  • apnic-icp-2review-apnic.net
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    Apr 24, 2025
    Latest captured
    Sep 1, 2026
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    Oct 14, 2026
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  • apnic-measurement-apnic.net
    Earliest captured
    May 31, 2023
    Latest captured
    Mar 8, 2026
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    Oct 14, 2026
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  • apnic-mvnog-apnic.net
    Earliest captured
    Feb 5, 2026
    Latest captured
    Sep 28, 2026
    Last refresh
    Oct 14, 2026
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    Source coverage is incomplete.
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  • apnic-orbit-discuss-apnic.net
    Earliest captured
    Sep 13, 2022
    Latest captured
    Nov 13, 2022
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    Oct 13, 2026
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  • apnic-pngnog-apnic.net
    Earliest captured
    Dec 26, 2019
    Latest captured
    Oct 28, 2024
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    Oct 13, 2026
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  • apnic-security-discuss-apnic.net
    Earliest captured
    Mar 27, 2024
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    Aug 16, 2024
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  • apnic-sig-cooperation-apnic.net
    Earliest captured
    Jan 15, 2015
    Latest captured
    Aug 25, 2026
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    Oct 12, 2026
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  • apnic-sig-guidelines-review-apnic.net
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  • apnic-sig-nir-lists.apnic.net
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    May 13, 2004
    Latest captured
    Sep 4, 2026
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    Oct 14, 2026
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  • apnic-sig-routingsecurity-apnic.net
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    Apr 3, 2020
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    Aug 25, 2026
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    Oct 14, 2026
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  • apnic-user-feedback-group-apnic.net
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    Sep 12, 2022
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    Jul 14, 2026
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    Oct 14, 2026
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  • apnic-wg-pdr-apnic.net
    Earliest captured
    Mar 29, 2021
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    Sep 21, 2022
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    Oct 14, 2026
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  • apnic-youth4ig-lists.apnic.net
    Earliest captured
    Feb 19, 2020
    Latest captured
    Jul 28, 2023
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    Oct 14, 2026
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Coverage

Partial
Earliest captured: Jun 1, 2001
Latest captured: Oct 14, 2026

Freshness

Freshness: Stale · Last refresh:

Known gaps

  • www.apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-sig-policy: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-sig-policy: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • www.apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • conference.apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-academy-talk-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-afg-community-apnic.foundation: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-apac-ict-women-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-apix-chair-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-apix-secretary-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-apix-treasurer-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-apnic-alumni-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-apnic-announce-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-apnic-foundation-discuss-apnic.foundation: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-apnic-services-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-apnic-talk-lists.apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-apnic-transfers-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-bgp-stats-lists.apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-community-elections-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-community-events-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-diversity-in-leadership-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-ianaxfer-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-icp-2review-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-measurement-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-mvnog-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-orbit-discuss-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-pngnog-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-security-discuss-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-sig-cooperation-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-sig-guidelines-review-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-sig-nir-lists.apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-sig-routingsecurity-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-user-feedback-group-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-wg-pdr-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-youth4ig-lists.apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.