APNIC · RIR Watchdog
A proposal to improve reachability of new IANA blocks
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Source facts
- Policy ID
- prop-039
- RIR
- APNIC
- Official status
- Proposal abandoned
- Normalized status
- Abandoned
- Introduced
- Aug 7, 2006
- Last source update
- Oct 13, 2026
- Coverage
- Partial
Who actually shaped the debate?
Policy evolution
Debate timeline
Entities
- Discussion messages2First activityNov 15, 2006Last activityNov 22, 2006First explicit stancePropose alternativeLatest explicit stancePropose alternativeStance changes0Viewpoint consistencyInsufficient evidence to assess consistencyOther policies6Freshness: Stale · Last refresh: · The latest refresh failed. The last successful result is shown.
Last research attempt: Sep 24, 2026
Identity verified: Sep 24, 2026
· Historical Authors Sanjaya, Terry Manderson
www.apnic.netVerified public profiles
- Discussion messages
- 2
- First activity
- Nov 15, 2006
- Last activity
- Nov 22, 2006
- First explicit stance
- Propose alternative
- Latest explicit stance
- Propose alternative
- Stance changes
- 0
- Viewpoint consistency
- Insufficient evidence to assess consistency
- Other policies
- 6
First explicit stance: Propose alternative → Latest explicit stance: Propose alternative · Stance changes: 0
Viewpoint consistency: Insufficient evidence to assess consistency
The nine attributed messages reviewed from 2006 to 2009 concern six policies and mostly supply operational clarification, statistics or explicit neutrality. They include a suggested wording change on reachability and a limited reference to an ASN-reclamation option. This sample does not establish repeated overall endorsements or opposition under comparable conditions, so it is insufficient to infer a stable or inconsistent overall policy position.
End site assignment policy for IPv6
Assessment: Insufficient evidence to assess consistency · Sanjaya first asks how assignment reports should be aggregated and later says either approach is acceptable; the two messages do not state an overall position on the proposal.
Conditions: The comparison is limited to the two supplied September and October 2006 messages and does not cover every aspect or version of the IPv6 assignment policy.
And can we confirm that it is now based on /56?
I have no objections to either use the current IPv4 registration requirement or amend it to encourage/require aggregation at the infrastructure level.
A proposal to improve reachability of new IANA blocks
Assessment: Insufficient evidence to assess consistency · Sanjaya proposes changing the reachability objective from ensuring routability to testing and promoting it, then explicitly says he is neither for nor against APNIC performing reachability tests; the wording amendment and later neutral explanation address different questions.
Conditions: The first message discusses version 1 wording, while the later reply discusses the operational scope of testing; the supplied messages do not provide two explicit overall endorsements or objections to compare. · The first message discusses version 1 wording, while the later reply discusses version 2 and the operational scope of testing.
To avoid the conflict with RFC 2050, perhaps it is better if the objective is to "test and promote" rather than "test and ensure" routability.
I am not for or against APNIC performing reachability test
Assessment: Insufficient evidence to assess consistency · Sanjaya promises APNIC ASN data, supplies first-quarter statistics and clarifies the difference between initial 32-bit assignments and numbers later exchanged for 16-bit numbers; the statistics do not state a position on adopting the allocation policy.
Conditions: The three messages concern statistics and their interpretation, not an explicit vote on the policy; the figures describe the first quarter of 2009 and are not a current allocation census. · The statistics describe the first quarter of 2009 and are not a current allocation census.
Yes, we could provide data set similar to pages 2 to 4 in the referenced RIPE-NCC presentation.
- 6 were 16-bit (swapped from 32-bit to 16-bit) - 6 were 32-bit
There were 12 32-bit ASNs, of which 6 were swapped to 16-bit. Sorry for the confusion.
Ensuring efficient use of historical AS numbers
Assessment: Insufficient evidence to assess consistency · Sanjaya identifies prop-075 as one possible mechanism in the ASN discussion; that limited suggestion does not establish unconditional endorsement of the entire proposal or a change over time.
Conditions: The same email also clarifies prop-075-related statistics; those figures are not a second independent expression of a policy position.
prop-075 is one possibility :)
Recovery of unused address space
Assessment: Insufficient evidence to assess consistency · Sanjaya reports historical address-reclamation figures and says the process is ongoing; reporting implementation progress shows participation but does not express support or opposition from which a stance trajectory can be inferred.
Conditions: The statement describes the historical August 2009 implementation discussion, and only one attributed message about this policy is included in the review. · The statement that the process is ongoing describes the August 2009 message, not its present status.
We have identified 2,079 un-routed historical prefixes, of which 122 (6%) have been reclaimed by APNIC. This process is still ongoing.
Simplifying allocation/assignment of IPv6 to APNIC members with existingIPv4 addresses
Assessment: Insufficient evidence to assess consistency · Sanjaya explicitly says he is neither for nor against the IPv6 allocation proposal and explains that MyAPNIC records delegated resources and delegation dates; the operational clarification should not be converted into endorsement or objection.
Conditions: The APNIC staff description is his statement in the August 2009 email, not a claim about his current employment; one neutral statement provides no before-and-after position comparison. · One explicit neutral statement provides no before-and-after position comparison.
As APNIC staff I'm neither for nor against the proposal
MyAPNIC always have a complete record of resources delegated to the member, including the delegation date.
A proposal to improve reachability of new IANA blocks · Simplifying allocation/assignment of IPv6 to APNIC members with existingIPv4 addresses
Assessment: Insufficient evidence to assess consistency · The reachability-testing discussion and the later IPv6-allocation discussion both contain explicit neutrality while explaining operational matters, but they address different policy choices; repeated neutral wording therefore does not establish a comparable substantive position across policies.
Conditions: The messages were written in 2006 and 2009 and address different questions; the unreviewed historical record may add evidence. · Neutrality on these questions does not establish a general stance on other policies; the unreviewed historical record may add evidence.
I am not for or against APNIC performing reachability test
As APNIC staff I'm neither for nor against the proposal
- Nov 15, 2006 · Propose alternative
[sig-policy] Comment on [prop-039-v001] A proposal to improve reachability of new IANA blocks
To avoid the conflict with RFC 2050, perhaps it is better if the objective is to "test and promote" rather than "test and ensure" routability.
Source facts ↗ - Nov 22, 2006 · Procedural or neutral
Re: [sig-policy] [prop-039-v002] A proposal to improve reachability of new IANA blocks
I am not for or against APNIC performing reachability test
Source facts ↗
Per-policy stance timelines:prop-017 · Unknown · Insufficient evidence to assess consistencyprop-033 · Unknown · Insufficient evidence to assess consistencyprop-039 · Propose alternative · Insufficient evidence to assess consistencyprop-054 · Unknown · No explicit position statedprop-073 · Unknown · Insufficient evidence to assess consistencyprop-074 · Unknown · Insufficient evidence to assess consistencyprop-075 · Unknown · Insufficient evidence to assess consistencyTotal policy messages: 10
- Discussion messages0First activityUnknownLast activityUnknownFirst explicit stanceUnknownLatest explicit stanceUnknownStance changes0Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position statedOther policies0
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