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AFPUB-2013-V4-001-DRAFT-01

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Source facts

Policy ID
AFPUB-2013-V4-001
RIR
AFRINIC
Official status
Unknown
Normalized status
Unknown
Introduced
Unknown
Last source update
Aug 27, 2026
Coverage
Partial

Who actually shaped the debate?

24Total participants
24Discussion contributors
UnknownFormal actors
120Discussion messages
10.3Effective participants
60.8%Top-five discussion share
4People covering 50%
9People covering 80%

Policy evolution

Debate timeline

  1. Public discussion

    [AFRINIC-rpd] New Policy Proposal: Inter RIR IPv4 Address Transfers (AFPUB-2013-V4-001-DRAFT-01)

    107 Discussion messages · 20 Entities

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  2. Public discussion

    [AFRINIC-rpd] PDP discussions

    8 Discussion messages · 6 Entities

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  3. Public discussion

    [AFRINIC-rpd] Summary as it stands on the Academic IPv4 Policy Proposal

    2 Discussion messages · 2 Entities

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Entities

Freshness: Stale
  1. Andrew Alston · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages24
    First activityJan 11, 2013
    Last activityJan 16, 2013
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies2
  2. Discussion messages17
    First activityJan 14, 2013
    Last activityJun 29, 2013
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies15
  3. Discussion messages12
    First activityJan 14, 2013
    Last activityJan 16, 2013
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
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    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies3
  4. Sunday Folayan · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages11
    First activityJan 14, 2013
    Last activityJan 17, 2013
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies6
  5. SM · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages9
    First activityJan 11, 2013
    Last activityJan 16, 2013
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies7
  6. David Conrad · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages7
    First activityJan 11, 2013
    Last activityJan 17, 2013
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies2
  7. Discussion messages7
    First activityJan 11, 2013
    Last activityJun 26, 2013
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies13
  8. Discussion messages5
    First activityJan 11, 2013
    Last activityJan 16, 2013
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyConsistent
    Other policies8
    Freshness: Stale

    Last research attempt: Sep 25, 2026

    Identity verified: Sep 25, 2026

    RIPE NCC · Historical
    RIPE NCC staff – IP Analyst/Hostmaster/LIR Trainer (2002-2005)
    www.arin.net
    Internet Systems Consortium · Historical
    Internet Systems Consortium, Education Manager and Lead Trainer (2012)
    www.arin.net
    AFRINIC · Historical
    Former AFRINIC Policy Development Working Group Co-chair
    www.arin.net

    Verified public profiles

    Discussion messages
    5
    First activity
    Jan 11, 2013
    Last activity
    Jan 16, 2013
    First explicit stance
    Unknown
    Latest explicit stance
    Unknown
    Stance changes
    0
    Viewpoint consistency
    Consistent
    Other policies
    8

    First explicit stance: Unknown → Latest explicit stance: Unknown · Stance changes: 0

    Viewpoint consistency: Consistent

    The No Reverse contributions preserve the objective of encouraging assignment registration while revising the mechanism and leaving withdrawal conditional on community agreement. The anycast contributions show support for discussion and later clarification, without enough supplied text to compare every version. Clarification and conditional willingness to withdraw are not evidence of an unexplained reversal.

    AFPUB-2012-V4-001-DRAFT-01

    Assessment: Insufficient evidence to assess consistency · The author introduces the anycast proposal as a strawman and invites feedback. This establishes advocacy of a discussion starting point, not endorsement of every subsequent version or a sequence of positions on this particular proposal.

    Conditions: The retained message does not reproduce the substantive proposed anycast terms.

    It is somewhat of a "strawman" in that it gives us a starting point for discussion.

    No Reverse Unless Assigned

    Assessment: Consistent · The sequence begins with a tentative enforcement proposal, moves to revised wording with discretionary removal after notice, and ends with willingness to withdraw if the community rejects the approach. The stated registration objective persists. The end-user clarification explains that assignments already entered by staff satisfy the registration condition, although the broad draft wording could benefit from that explanation.

    Conditions: The change to MAY is a real revision of the enforcement mechanism, not unchanged wording. · The /24 condition requires at least one registered assignment or sub-allocation, not registration of the entire /24. · The end-user explanation relies on the author's recollection of staff registration practice; it is not an independent verification of all end-user records. · The June message offers withdrawal conditionally and reports the author's perception of feedback; it does not prove actual withdrawal or absence of community views. · A draft identifier announcement is procedural and does not establish adoption.

    I am hoping it will spur discussion and perhaps someone will have a better idea

    I have used a "MAY" instead of a "SHALL" or a "MUST"

    3.3 AfriNIC may remove reverse delegation of any LIRs allocation beginning 12 (twelve) months from the date of the reminder.

    Since End-User assignments are already entered into the Db by the RIR staff (IIRC), then they can get reverse delegation if they so choose.

    If there is no consensus that this is the way to rectify the problem of getting people to register their assignments, I would be happy to withdraw this proposal

    Anycast resource assignments in the AFRINIC region

    Assessment: Consistent · Support for Alan's clarification and future-proofing is followed by an explicit favorable last-call response. No withdrawal of support is present, but the short final response does not independently establish whether every earlier suggestion entered the final text.

    Conditions: The exact intervening drafts are not reproduced in these two messages. · A favorable response is the author's vote, not proof of community consensus or adoption.

    I would support the change that Alan suggests in the interests of clarity.

    in favor.

    AFPUB-2012-V4-001-DRAFT-01 · Anycast resource assignments in the AFRINIC region

    Assessment: Insufficient evidence to assess consistency · The earlier anycast strawman and the later support for clarification are compatible in direction, but the first message contains no substantive terms. They cannot establish detailed consistency across all allocation conditions or revisions.

    Conditions: Do not infer that submitting the initial strawman endorses every later anycast text.

    Below is the proposal on Anycast I submitted to pdwg last week.

    sure, I am all for future proofing as APB suggests.

    No Reverse Unless Assigned · Anycast resource assignments in the AFRINIC region

    Assessment: Consistent · Revising No Reverse in response to concerns and accepting clarifying anycast wording both show willingness to refine proposals during discussion. Conditional withdrawal of an enforcement approach does not contradict support for a different resource-assignment proposal.

    Conditions: This comparison concerns the stated handling of feedback, not identical substantive rules in the two policies.

    Please find my revisions to the "No Reverse" proposal below, taking into account all of your concerns (I hope):

    I would support the change that Alan suggests in the interests of clarity.

    1. Jan 11, 2013 · Unknown

      [AFRINIC-rpd] New Policy Proposal: Inter RIR IPv4 Address Transfers (AFPUB-2013-V4-001-DRAFT-01)

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    2. Jan 12, 2013 · Unknown

      [AFRINIC-rpd] New Policy Proposal: Inter RIR IPv4 Address Transfers (AFPUB-2013-V4-001-DRAFT-01)

      Validated evidence is unavailable.

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    3. Jan 13, 2013 · Unknown

      [AFRINIC-rpd] New Policy Proposal: Inter RIR IPv4 Address Transfers (AFPUB-2013-V4-001-DRAFT-01)

      Validated evidence is unavailable.

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    4. Jan 16, 2013 · Unknown

      [AFRINIC-rpd] New Policy Proposal: Inter RIR IPv4 Address Transfers (AFPUB-2013-V4-001-DRAFT-01)

      Validated evidence is unavailable.

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    5. Jan 16, 2013 · Unknown

      [AFRINIC-rpd] New Policy Proposal: Inter RIR IPv4 Address Transfers (AFPUB-2013-V4-001-DRAFT-01)

      Validated evidence is unavailable.

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    Total policy messages: 71

  9. Chad · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages4
    First activityJan 16, 2013
    Last activityJan 16, 2013
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies0
  10. Nii Narku Quaynor · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages4
    First activityJan 11, 2013
    Last activityJun 27, 2013
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies3
  11. Discussion messages3
    First activityJan 15, 2013
    Last activityJun 24, 2013
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies8
  12. Discussion messages2
    First activityJun 20, 2013
    Last activityJun 21, 2013
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies10
  13. Jackson Muthili · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages2
    First activityJan 16, 2013
    Last activityJan 16, 2013
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies5
  14. Fiona Asonga · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages2
    First activityJan 14, 2013
    Last activityJan 16, 2013
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies3
  15. Discussion messages2
    First activityJun 3, 2013
    Last activityJun 8, 2013
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies6
  16. Karim ATTOUMANI MOHAMED · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages1
    First activityJan 11, 2013
    Last activityJan 11, 2013
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies0
  17. JP · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages1
    First activityJun 24, 2013
    Last activityJun 24, 2013
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies6
  18. Guy Antony Halse · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages1
    First activityJan 16, 2013
    Last activityJan 16, 2013
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies1
  19. Pierre Lotis NANKEP · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages1
    First activityJan 11, 2013
    Last activityJan 11, 2013
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies0
  20. Bope Domilongo Christian · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages1
    First activityJun 21, 2013
    Last activityJun 21, 2013
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies7
  21. gift · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages1
    First activityJan 17, 2013
    Last activityJan 17, 2013
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies1
  22. Arturo Servin · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages1
    First activityJan 16, 2013
    Last activityJan 16, 2013
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies0
  23. Discussion messages1
    First activityJan 16, 2013
    Last activityJan 16, 2013
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies10
  24. Discussion messages1
    First activityJan 10, 2013
    Last activityJan 10, 2013
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies6

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