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APNIC · RIR Watchdog

Proposal for discrete networks and national peering

Start here for the proposal-by-proposal record: what changed, why it mattered, who argued for what, how positions evolved, what was decided, and where the evidence still has gaps.

Source facts

Policy ID
prop-029
RIR
APNIC
Official status
Consensus not reached on this proposal.
Normalized status
Rejected
Introduced
Sep 3, 2005
Last source update
Oct 12, 2026
Coverage
Partial

Who actually shaped the debate?

5Total participants
UnknownDiscussion contributors
5Formal actors
UnknownDiscussion messages
UnknownEffective participants
UnknownTop-five discussion share
UnknownPeople covering 50%
UnknownPeople covering 80%

Policy evolution

5e9452b8461f744cd264d881e11776e8cff03b9c3060c7c6df1349359008d679
Sep 3, 2005
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Utilisation for additional RIR space · Version 2 makes the greater-than-50-percent test explicitly applicable to IPv4 and states that existing HD-ratio policies apply to IPv6 discrete networks. Version 1 did not distinguish the two protocols in this criterion. The requirement still covers the last RIR block and overall allocations for IPv4.

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4.1 When applying for additional address space from an RIR for new Networks or additional space for existing networks the organization must show greater than 50% utilization for the last block granted by the RIR and their allocations as a whole.
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4.1 When applying for additional address space from an RIR for new networks or additional space for existing discrete networks the organization must show greater than 50% utilization (IPv4) for the last block granted by the RIR and their allocations as a whole. For IPv6 discrete networks existing HD ratio policies apply.
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Utilisation within a discrete network · Version 2 specifies greater-than-80-percent utilisation individually for IPv4 blocks and existing HD-ratio policies for IPv6. It removes version 1's additional 'as a whole' wording from this clause while retaining the restriction on giving further space to a discrete network.

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4.2 The organization must not issue additional IP address space to a discrete network unless all the blocks sub-allocated to that network show utilization greater than 80% individually and as a whole.
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4.2 The organization must not issue additional IP address space to a discrete network unless all the blocks sub-allocated to that network show utilization greater than 80% individually for IPv4 and existing HD ratio policies for IPv6.
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Debate timeline

  1. Official version

    v001

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  2. Official decision

    rejected

    rejected

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  3. Introduced

    Introduced

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  4. Official version

    Official version

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Entities

Freshness: Stale
  1. Vu · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages0
    First activityUnknown
    Last activityUnknown
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies0
  2. Uchenna N Ibekwe
    Discussion messages0
    First activityUnknown
    Last activityUnknown
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies0
  3. Jason Schiller
    Discussion messages0
    First activityUnknown
    Last activityUnknown
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies0
  4. Vu, Baokhanh N (Beth)
    Discussion messages0
    First activityUnknown
    Last activityUnknown
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies0
  5. Baokhanh N · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages0
    First activityUnknown
    Last activityUnknown
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies0

Sources and coverage

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Public discussion archives

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Coverage

Partial
Earliest captured: Jun 1, 2001
Latest captured: Oct 12, 2026

Freshness

Freshness: Stale · Last refresh:

Known gaps

  • www.apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-sig-policy: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
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