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Changing NIR fee structure

Start here for the proposal-by-proposal record: what changed, why it mattered, who argued for what, how positions evolved, what was decided, and where the evidence still has gaps.

Source facts

Policy ID
prop-024
RIR
APNIC
Official status
Withdrawn. A new proposal on modifying NIR fee structure is available at prop-0280-v001.
Normalized status
Withdrawn
Introduced
Aug 4, 2004
Last source update
Oct 2, 2026
Coverage
Partial

Who actually shaped the debate?

3Total participants
UnknownDiscussion contributors
3Formal actors
UnknownDiscussion messages
UnknownEffective participants
UnknownTop-five discussion share
UnknownPeople covering 50%
UnknownPeople covering 80%

BTW Analysis

BTW Analysis

What changed

APNIC prop-024 entered the recorded policy process on 4 August 2004 and was recorded as withdrawn on 2 September 2004, 29 days later. The supplied facts establish no adopted policy change and do not identify any intermediate revision or substantive outcome.

What the debate was really about

The substantive debate cannot be determined from the supplied evidence because the proposal text, arguments, discussion messages, participant stances, and reasons for withdrawal are absent.

Arguments that prevailed

  • No substantive argument can be identified as having prevailed; the only verified outcome is procedural withdrawal of the proposal.

Arguments that did not prevail

  • No substantive argument can be identified as having failed because no arguments, stance records, or minority positions are supplied.

Decision vs debate

The chronology establishes a withdrawal decision but contains no observed discussion: zero messages, zero discussion participants, zero active days, no stance participants, and no stance transitions. Withdrawal must not be interpreted as rejection, consensus failure, institutional intervention, or substantive defeat without additional evidence.

Participation concentration

Participation concentration is not measurable. Although three formal actors and three total participants are counted, there were zero recorded messages and zero discussion participants. Consequently, the zero message shares, HHI, effective-participant count, and core counts reflect an empty message dataset rather than broad or evenly distributed participation.

Chokepoint analysis

The only observable process chokepoint is withdrawal, which ended the proposal's progression before adoption. The supplied facts do not identify the withdrawing actor, the governing procedure, who influenced the outcome, or whether the withdrawal resulted from opposition, lack of support, failed compromise, procedural constraints, or voluntary reassessment.

Uncertainties

  • Zero recorded messages may mean that no discussion occurred in the measured source or that relevant discussion was not captured.
  • The proposal's intended policy change, text, and revision history are not supplied.
  • The identities, affiliations, and roles of the three formal actors are not supplied.
  • The identity of the withdrawing actor and the stated reason for withdrawal are unknown.
  • No meeting record, decision procedure, evidence of consensus, or evidence of opposition is supplied.
  • The chronology does not reveal intermediate deliberations or whether debate occurred outside the measured dataset.
  • The Doctrine package establishes only a partial official position and does not establish a complete official position for APNIC prop-024.

Policy evolution

Debate timeline

  1. Introduced

    Introduced

    Source facts ↗
  2. Official decision

    withdrawn

    withdrawn

    Source facts ↗

Entities

Freshness: Stale · Last refresh: · The latest refresh failed. The last successful result is shown.
  1. NIR fee WG · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages0
    First activityUnknown
    Last activityUnknown
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies0
  2. Toshiyuki Hosaka · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages0
    First activityUnknown
    Last activityUnknown
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies0
  3. Japan Network Information Center · Identity unresolved
    Discussion messages0
    First activityUnknown
    Last activityUnknown
    First explicit stanceUnknown
    Latest explicit stanceUnknown
    Stance changes0
    Viewpoint consistencyNo explicit position stated
    Other policies0

Sources and coverage

Official policy sources

Public discussion archives

  • apnic-sig-policy
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  • apnic-sig-policy
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  • www.apnic.net
  • conference.apnic.net
  • apnic-academy-talk-apnic.net
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  • apnic-afg-community-apnic.foundation
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    Sep 27, 2023
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  • apnic-apac-ict-women-apnic.net
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  • apnic-apix-chair-apnic.net
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  • apnic-apix-secretary-apnic.net
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  • apnic-apix-treasurer-apnic.net
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  • apnic-apnic-alumni-apnic.net
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  • apnic-apnic-announce-apnic.net
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  • apnic-apnic-foundation-discuss-apnic.foundation
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  • apnic-apnic-services-apnic.net
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  • apnic-apnic-talk-lists.apnic.net
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    Oct 3, 2026
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  • apnic-apnic-transfers-apnic.net
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  • apnic-bgp-stats-lists.apnic.net
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    Oct 3, 2026
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  • apnic-community-elections-apnic.net
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    Nov 12, 2021
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    Oct 3, 2026
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  • apnic-community-events-apnic.net
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  • apnic-diversity-in-leadership-apnic.net
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  • apnic-ianaxfer-apnic.net
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  • apnic-icp-2review-apnic.net
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  • apnic-measurement-apnic.net
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  • apnic-mvnog-apnic.net
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    Oct 3, 2026
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  • apnic-orbit-discuss-apnic.net
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    Sep 13, 2022
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    Oct 3, 2026
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  • apnic-pngnog-apnic.net
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    Dec 26, 2019
    Latest captured
    Oct 28, 2024
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  • apnic-security-discuss-apnic.net
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  • apnic-sig-cooperation-apnic.net
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  • apnic-sig-guidelines-review-apnic.net
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  • apnic-sig-nir-lists.apnic.net
    Earliest captured
    May 13, 2004
    Latest captured
    Sep 4, 2026
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    Oct 3, 2026
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  • apnic-sig-routingsecurity-apnic.net
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  • apnic-user-feedback-group-apnic.net
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  • apnic-wg-pdr-apnic.net
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  • apnic-youth4ig-lists.apnic.net
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    Feb 19, 2020
    Latest captured
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    Oct 3, 2026
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Coverage

Partial
Earliest captured: Jun 1, 2001
Latest captured: Oct 3, 2026

Freshness

Freshness: Stale · Last refresh: · The latest refresh failed. The last successful result is shown.

Known gaps

  • www.apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-sig-policy: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-sig-policy: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • www.apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • conference.apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-academy-talk-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-afg-community-apnic.foundation: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-apac-ict-women-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-apix-chair-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-apix-secretary-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-apix-treasurer-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-apnic-alumni-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-apnic-announce-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-apnic-foundation-discuss-apnic.foundation: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-apnic-services-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-apnic-talk-lists.apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-apnic-transfers-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-bgp-stats-lists.apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-community-elections-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-community-events-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-diversity-in-leadership-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-ianaxfer-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-icp-2review-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-measurement-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-mvnog-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-orbit-discuss-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-pngnog-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-security-discuss-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-sig-cooperation-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-sig-guidelines-review-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-sig-nir-lists.apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-sig-routingsecurity-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-user-feedback-group-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-wg-pdr-apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.
  • apnic-youth4ig-lists.apnic.net: Source coverage is incomplete. · The source boundary has not yet been reached.