LACNIC · Мониторинг RIR
Acceptable Use Policy (AUP) for the Policy List
Здесь можно проследить судьбу каждого предложения: что изменилось, почему это было важно, кто и за что выступал, как менялись позиции, какое решение было принято и где в доказательной базе всё ещё остаются пробелы.
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- Идентификатор предложения
- LAC-2018-13
- RIR
- LACNIC
- Официальный статус
- Abandoned
- Статус в системе
- Оставлено
- Внесено
- 28 апр. 2021 г.
- Последнее обновление источника
- 14 окт. 2026 г.
- Полнота данных
- Частично
Кто на самом деле определял ход дискуссии?
Как менялось предложение
Scope examples · The new text expressly states that the listed examples of out-of-scope discussion are illustrative only, clarifying that the prohibition is not limited to those examples.
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Проверенные данные недоступны.Election-related list activity · The old text specifically addressed candidates for PDP chair and expressly mentioned voting dates and results; the new text refers more generally to candidates and the voting procedure, requires the remaining procedural steps to occur outside the list, and treats nominations and expressions for or against candidates as examples of prohibited activity.
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Проверенные данные недоступны.Cultural and language considerations · The old text required cultural and language considerations when deciding on moderation of a participant; the new text applies those considerations when deciding on potential AUP violations.
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Проверенные данные недоступны.Responses to improper messages · The old text treated responding to an improper third-party message as a violation; the new text limits this rule to inappropriate responses to inappropriate third-party messages.
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Проверенные данные недоступны.Contact harvesting and honeypot checks · Both texts prohibit collecting participants' contact information and using it for spam, but the new text additionally authorizes LACNIC to periodically add external-domain email addresses as a honeypot to check for this conduct.
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Проверенные данные недоступны.Subscriber and election reminders · The old text required an 'Election Silence' reminder before each community electoral process. The new text omits that requirement and instead requires any subscription reminders that are sent to remind subscribers of the AUP.
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Проверенные данные недоступны.Temporary list moderation · The old text began with a general rule that the Public Policy List may not be moderated, subject to a very exceptional temporary-moderation provision. The new text retains the exceptional authority but omits that express general prohibition, describes the eight-hour limit as approximate, and adds that staff will support the chairs.
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Проверенные данные недоступны.Election penalties for suspension evasion · The old text made disqualification as a candidate and loss of nomination rights mandatory for attempted fraud by a suspended participant, applying to any LACNIC electoral process for four years. The new text makes those consequences discretionary by stating that violations may result in loss of candidate and nomination rights in election processes for four years.
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Проверенные данные недоступны.Authorization for non-policy discussions · The blanket exclusion of discussions outside the list's policy scope was changed to allow such discussions when the chairs have made a prior and explicit decision.
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Any discussion outside this scope, including but not limited to, event announcements, calls for papers, advertising of any kind (including electoral advertising), expressions of support for candidates and, in general, any topic that is not explicitly policy-related, is outside the scope of this list.Факты из источников ↗
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Except in case of prior and explicit decision of the chairs, any discussion not in line with this purpose,Факты из источников ↗
Private-message confidentiality · The violations list was expanded to prohibit sending or forwarding private messages unless the involved parties have given prior and explicit consent.
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d hominem attacks, foul language and disrespect are contrary to the AUP.Факты из источников ↗
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Ad hominem attacks, foul language, disrespect, and the sending (or forwarding) of private messages (unless with the prior and explicit consent of the parties involved).Факты из источников ↗
Reporting suspected violations · The requirement to report suspected violations directly to the chairs was strengthened to require reporting them exclusively to the chairs.
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ny suspected violation must be reported directly to the chairs.Факты из источников ↗
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Any suspected violation must be reported exclusively to the chairs.Факты из источников ↗
Definition of spam · The prohibition on collecting contact information to send spam now expressly defines spam as any message not previously and explicitly requested.
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ther violations of the AUP include using the list to collect participants’ contact information and using such information to send spam.Факты из источников ↗
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Use of the list to collect participants’ contact information and using such information for sending spam (any message that has not been previously and explicitly requested).Факты из источников ↗
Fraud and penalty evasion · The former violation was limited to attempted fraud by a suspended participant, exemplified by using an alternative address; the new text covers any attempt to commit fraud or bypass a penalty, including use of alternative mail addresses.
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i) Any attempt to commit fraud or bypass a penalty, such as the use of alternative mail addresses.Факты из источников ↗
Chair authority to identify additional unacceptable uses · The new version expressly authorizes the chairs to determine that actions beyond the enumerated violations are unacceptable uses of the list.
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) Attempted fraud by a suspended participant, e.g. the use of an alternative mail address, is also considered a violation of the AUP. j) Considering the global nature of list participants, when deciding on potential violations of the AUP, the chairs will take into account relevant cultural aspects and language differences.Факты из источников ↗
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Based on the above, the chairs may determine what other actions also constitute unacceptable uses of the list.Факты из источников ↗
Censorship of archived posts · The archive rule changed from an unqualified statement that posts may not be censored to a statement specifically that they may not be censored by LACNIC.
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ailing list posts are archived, they are publicly available and may not be censored.Факты из источников ↗
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All mailing list posts are archived, they are publicly available and may not be censored by LACNIC.Факты из источников ↗
Application to communication mechanisms other than mailing lists · The new version extends the entire policy to forums, applications, and other mechanisms under the same or technically equivalent terms; the old text proceeded directly from the mailing-list moderation rule to enforcement without such an extension.
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If additional mechanisms are used other than a mailing list (forums, applications, etc.), the entire content of this policy will also apply, under the same or technically equivalent terms.Факты из источников ↗
Trigger for four-year election penalties · The four-year loss of candidacy and nomination rights was changed from being triggered by violations of old item i, concerning attempted fraud by a suspended participant, to violations relating to election processes.
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iolations of item i) above may result in the loss of the right to be a candidate, as well as the right to nominate candidates, in election processes for four (4) years.Факты из источников ↗
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Violations relating to election processes may result in the loss of the right to participate as a candidate, as well as the right to nominate candidates, in election processes for four (4) years.Факты из источников ↗
Four-year election penalty for repeat violations · The new version additionally permits the four-year election-related penalty for repeat violations after the offender has received a penalty of at least one year.
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iolations of item i) above may result in the loss of the right to be a candidate, as well as the right to nominate candidates, in election processes for four (4) years.Факты из источников ↗
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This penalty may also apply in case of repeat violations once the offender has been penalized for at least one year.Факты из источников ↗
Rationale: participant knowledge of rules and penalties · The rationale changes the statement that participants “must” have explicit knowledge of permitted conduct and penalties to say that they “should” have such knowledge.
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Проверенные данные недоступны.Temporary moderation duration · The moderation rule replaces the approximate maximum message delay of eight hours with a requirement that moderation last only for brief, defined periods and that messages not be delayed longer than strictly necessary.
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Проверенные данные недоступны.Application of the AUP to additional communication systems · The old text applies the entire policy whenever mechanisms other than a mailing list are used. The new text instead describes the list as the current official PDP communication means and extends the AUP to future systems that replicate the list by automatically exchanging all posts with it, under the same or technically equivalent conditions.
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Проверенные данные недоступны.Chair discretion in classifying listed violations · The new text expressly makes classification of the enumerated conduct as AUP violations subject to the discretion of the chairs; the old enumeration contains no equivalent discretion qualifier.
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Проверенные данные недоступны.Evidence condition for contact harvesting, spam, fraud, and penalty evasion · The new text places contact-information harvesting and spam, as well as fraud or attempts to bypass a penalty, under an explicit “when evidence exists” condition. The old text lists these acts as violations without that express condition.
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Проверенные данные недоступны.Posting suspensions for first and second violations · The old text automatically imposes a one-month suspension for a first violation and requires extension to one year for a second violation. The new text makes both consequences discretionary: a first violation may result in a one-month suspension, and a second may extend it up to one year.
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Проверенные данные недоступны.Election-related violations and penalties · The old text permits a four-year loss of candidate-participation and nomination rights for election-related violations and allows the same penalty for repeat violations after at least a one-year penalty. The new text characterizes election-related violations as extremely serious, sets the stated loss of rights at two years, and allows up to four years for repeated violations.
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Проверенные данные недоступны.Implementation when mailing-list technology is not ready · The new Additional information adds a staged implementation approach: it states that technical limitations should not prevent effectiveness upon consensus, permits initially distributing the AUP without immediately restricting posting, and defers mandatory acceptance for continued posting until the system is ready. The corresponding old Additional information ends after describing distribution and acceptance and contains no such fallback.
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Проверенные данные недоступны.Subscriber acceptance requirements · The subscriber-specific process of sending new subscribers a link and requiring two checked confirmations is replaced by a general obligation for LACNIC to implement a system ensuring that subscribers read the PDP, especially the AUP, and confirm acceptance; subscribers who decline are limited to receiving messages.
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chairs. A link to the PDP and the text of the AUP will be sent to each new list subscriber, who must explicitly check their acceptance. Until confirming this link by checking both options, the subscriber will only be able to receive messages fromФакты из источников ↗
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e chairs. LACNIC shall implement a system that guarantees that subscribers will read the PDP (and especially the AUP) and confirm its acceptance. Should they choose not to do so, they will only be able to receive messages fromФакты из источников ↗
Detection of accounts used to violate the AUP · The fixed requirement to periodically add external email addresses as honeypots is replaced by a broader requirement to incorporate detection systems insofar as possible, with external-address honeypots retained only as an example.
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erences. LACNIC will periodically add different email addresses outside its domains to be used as aФакты из источников ↗
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ferences. LACNIC shall incorporate systems that allow detecting, in so far as possible, the accounts used to breach the AUP. By way of an example, emails that are not part of the LACNIC domains may periodically be added to the list to serve as aФакты из источников ↗
Chair discretion in classifying violations · Conduct listed in section 8.2 changes from being considered violations to conduct that may be considered violations at the chairs' discretion.
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icy List At the discretion of the chairs, the following are considered violations ofФакты из источников ↗
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licy List At the discretion of the chairs, the following may be considered violations oФакты из источников ↗
Chair discretion over posting suspensions · Express chair discretion is moved from longer suspensions for successive violations to the initial one-month suspension and its extension for a second violation; the successive-violation sentence no longer separately states that discretion.
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erences. The first violation of the AUP may result in a temporary suspension of the offender's right to post to the list for a period of one (1) month, which may be extended up to one (1) year in case of a second violation. At the discretion of the chairs, successive violations may result in longer susФакты из источников ↗
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ferences. At the discretion of the chairs, the first violation of the AUP may result in a temporary suspension of the offender's right to post to the list for a period of one (1) month, which may be extended up to one (1) year in case of a second violation. Successive violations may result in longer suФакты из источников ↗
Scope of election-related participation penalties · The election processes in which candidacy and nomination rights may be lost are specified as PDP election processes rather than election processes generally.
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ensions. Violations relating to election processes are considered extremely serious and may result in the loss of the right to participate as a candidate, as well as of the right to nominate candidates, in election processes for two (2) years and for up to four (4) years in case of repeated viФакты из источников ↗
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pensions. Violations relating to election processes are considered extremely serious and may result in the loss of the right to participate as a candidate, as well as of the right to nominate candidates, in PDP election processes for two (2) years and for up to four (4) years in case of repeated vФакты из источников ↗
Implementation for existing subscribers and approval condition · The implementation provision requiring consensus, Board ratification, and an emailed acceptance workflow is replaced by a requirement for a mechanism covering existing subscribers without distinguishing their participation from that of new subscribers.
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rmation If this proposal achieves consensus, once it is ratified by the Board, this text will be emailed to all Public Policy List subscribers along with a link to a page where they will have to explicitly check their acceptance of the AUP and confirm that they are familiar with the PDP. Until confirming this link by checking both options, the subscriber will only be able to receive messages from tФакты из источников ↗
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formation To implement this proposal, LACNIC must establish a mechanism for existing subscribers to receive and accept the AUP and the PDP such that no distinction is made between their participation and that of new suФакты из источников ↗
Policy text · Astra identified a substantive wording change in this retained policy section.
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This moderation affects the openness of the list and especially its dynamics, two essential features of the Policy Development Process, which specifies that the list must be “completely open.” Any form of moderation constitutes censorship, even if only temporary, and therefore breaches the principle of openness. Current text N/A New text Analyze diff (Note: The following text would be added at the end of the current PDP.) 8.Факты из источников ↗
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The LACNIC Community Code of Conduct (https://www.lacnic.net/4038/1/lacnic/codigo-de-conducta-de-la-comunidad-de-lacnic) specifies the following: “In the case of the mailing lists, acceptable use policies may apply that establish standards in addition to those specified in this Code.Факты из источников ↗
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Current text N/A New text Analyze diff (Note: The following text would be added at the end of the current PDP.) 8.Факты из источников ↗
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Current text N/A New text Analyze diff (Note: The following text would be added to the current PDP, possibly at the end of the existing text, at the discretion of LACNIC.) 8.Факты из источников ↗
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Except in case of prior and explicit decision of the chairs, any discussion not in line with this purpose, such as event announcements, calls for papers, advertising of any kind (including electoral propaganda), expressions of support for candidates and, in general, any topic that is not explicitly policy-related, is outside the scope of this list.Факты из источников ↗
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Only the chairs and/or LACNIC staff may call for and/or announce candidates and the voting procedure.Факты из источников ↗
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The remaining steps of the procedure will necessarily take place off the list.Факты из источников ↗
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By way of example, candidate nominations, expressions for or against a candidate or other similar actions are not allowed on the list.Факты из источников ↗
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Only the chairs may issue a warning to those in violation of the AUP and take the corresponding actions, announcing their decision through the list.Факты из источников ↗
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Only the chairs may issue a warning to those in violation of the AUP and take the appropriate actions, announcing their decision through the list Any suspected violation must be reported exclusively to the chairs.Факты из источников ↗
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LACNIC shall implement a system that guarantees that subscribers will read the PDP (and especially the AUP) and confirm its acceptance.Факты из источников ↗
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If subscription reminders are sent, such messages must also remind subscribers of the AUP.” Likewise, at the bottom of each message, a link will be included to allow list subscribers to manage their subscription preferences.Факты из источников ↗
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By way of an example, emails that are not part of the LACNIC domains may periodically be added to the list to serve as a honeypot.Факты из источников ↗
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Messages posted to the list will be archived and publicly available.Факты из источников ↗
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Mailing list posts are archived, they are publicly available and may not be censored by LACNIC.Факты из источников ↗
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Хронология обсуждения
Публичное обсуждение
[LACNIC/Politicas] Nueva versión de la propuesta LAC-2018-13
3 Сообщения в обсуждении · 1 Участники
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Участники
- Сообщения в обсуждении3Первое участие19 авг. 2020 г.Последнее участие19 авг. 2020 г.Первая заявленная позицияПротивПоследняя заявленная позицияПротивИзменения позиций0Согласованность позицииСогласованнаяДругие предложения5
- Сообщения в обсуждении1Первое участие18 апр. 2019 г.Последнее участие18 апр. 2019 г.Первая заявленная позицияНеизвестноПоследняя заявленная позицияНеизвестноИзменения позиций0Согласованность позицииСмешаннаяДругие предложения39Актуальность: Устарело
Последняя попытка исследования: 17 сент. 2026 г.
Личность подтверждена: 11 окт. 2026 г.
The IPv6 Company · Исторические сведения Name: Jordi Palet Martínez Email: [email protected] Organization: The IPv6 Company
politicas.lacnic.netПроверенные публичные профили
- Сообщения в обсуждении
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- Первое участие
- 18 апр. 2019 г.
- Последнее участие
- 18 апр. 2019 г.
- Первая заявленная позиция
- Неизвестно
- Последняя заявленная позиция
- Неизвестно
- Изменения позиций
- 0
- Согласованность позиции
- Смешанная
- Другие предложения
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Первая заявленная позиция: Неизвестно → Последняя заявленная позиция: Неизвестно · Изменения позиций: 0
Согласованность позиции: Смешанная
The main policy objectives remain coherent: usable address plans without avoidable renumbering, meaningful participation in consensus, and functional abuse contacts. The record also contains real, explained changes in mechanisms, including withdrawal of the separate non-ISP category in favor of a common allocation rule. One university example contains unresolved end-user classification language, so the record should not be described as uniformly consistent in every detail. Procedural replies and single contributions cannot establish a lasting substantive position, and quoted disagreements are not the author's own votes.
Modify direct IPv6 address assignments to end users
Оценка: Недостаточно доказательств для оценки согласованности · The author accepts clearer old-and-new text and a stronger rationale while deliberately separating the allocation-size question from the two changes being proposed. This one reply shows willingness to refine the proposal, but supplies no sequence from which to assess a reversal or durable consistency.
Условия: Support for this limited change does not endorse a separate size change or every later draft.
Mi idea en esta propuesta es SOLO tocar los dos puntos indicados.
Modify the size of initial IPv6 allocations
Оценка: Согласованная · From March 2016 through May 2017 the author seeks an aggregated, realistic IPv6 plan for government and other nontraditional networks. His preferred mechanism evolves: he first argues for differentiated non-ISP treatment, offers an alternative at the community's request, and finally abandons this proposal because the common mechanism serves the same objective with less complexity. The withdrawal is explained rather than an unexplained rejection of the objective.
Условия: The initial willingness to withdraw depended on staff confirming that the existing rule already permitted the case; it was not an actual March withdrawal. · The later report of community consensus is not independent evidence of final ratification or implementation. · Claims about government allocations and regional experience are the author's examples and assertions.
Y creo que no es conveniente tener tantas pol?ticas como ?casos?.
Mi propuesta pretende aclarar esta situacion, con una categoria nueva diferente de ISP, aunque es muy similar a un ISP.
que evitamos con un solo mecanismo para justificar los recursos
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Оценка: Согласованная · The November correction changes the stated horizon from the organization's life expectancy to the allocation's expected longevity. The author acknowledges an overlooked drafting error and explains why the latter better bounds the addressing plan. This is a real correction with an explanation, not evidence that every earlier version already said the same thing.
Условия: The author's account of his original intention cannot erase the earlier organization-longevity wording.
El plan de direccionamiento ha de tener en cuenta la longevidad prevista de la organizaci?n.
nunca fue la intenci?n que la longevidad fuera de la organizaci?n, sino de la distribuci?n inicial
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Оценка: Смешанная · The August university example calls a university with several providers not an end user, yet immediately says each university could obtain its own /32 under the end-user policy. Elsewhere the distinction turns on assigning resources to separate organizations. The example therefore contains an unresolved classification ambiguity; it does not establish that multihoming alone changes an organization into an LIR.
Условия: This concerns the precision of the example, not a demonstrated reversal of the objective of aggregated national-network addressing. · No supplied follow-up expressly reconciles those two descriptions of the university.
necesita direccionamiento propio y obviamente NO es un usuario final.
Si aplican a la pol?tica de usuario final, podr?an obtener, cada una de ellas su propio /32.
asignar direcciones? a terceros
Modify the size of initial IPv6 allocations
Оценка: Согласованная · The author presents the common ISP/LIR rule as an explicit alternative, explains its longer-horizon planning benefit, and later favors it over separate categories because it achieves the shared aim more simply. Offering two mutually exclusive community choices is not support for adopting conflicting rules simultaneously.
Условия: This entails a change from preserving the commercial-ISP time limit to accepting a common mechanism; the design preference did evolve. · The source describes community consensus, not proof of all subsequent implementation steps.
Mi idea es ofrecer AMBAS alternativas para que la comunidad decida.
Por supuesto que la idea no es que se aprueben las dos, sino una u otra.
v?lido para ambos casos.
Rectifying the size of initial allocations
Оценка: Согласованная · The sequence consistently supports a one-time correction of an inadequate initial IPv6 allocation to avoid renumbering. It preserves the ordinary subsequent-allocation procedure, acknowledges that contiguous space may not remain available, and leaves end-user inclusion open if relevant cases are presented. Encouraging discussion is separate from this substantive advocacy.
Условия: The residential /64 remark is a reductio, not a recommendation to reduce customer assignments. · The /33 example and worldwide adoption fraction are not independently established technical or statistical evidence. · Future contiguous allocations are not guaranteed.
No se trata de evitar que haya ?nuevas asignaciones? en el futuro, pero si dar la oportunidad de ?corregir? la primera por una sola vez.
ser?a muy sencillo actualizar la propuesta para incluir ese caso.
ahora pague por ello el cliente.
Reducing the last-call-for-comments period in LACNIC's Policy Development Process.
Оценка: Согласованная · The author repeats a preference for 30 calendar days, finds discretionary chair-adjusted intervals too subjective, and then proposes a broader list-based consensus process. The broader process discussion does not endorse the specific 20-day option or retract the stated 30-day preference within this exchange.
Условия: The comparative timing list is supplied by another participant. · The claimed benefits of avoiding meeting delays are advocacy, not measured outcomes.
creo que 30 d?as naturales ser?a suficiente y siempre m?s f?cil de contar.
Me refuerza en mi punto de vista de 30 d?as.
la decisi?n del consenso (igual que en IETF) se toma en la lista, no en el meeting
MODIFYING INITIAL IPv6 ALLOCATIONS TO END USERS
Оценка: Недостаточно доказательств для оценки согласованности · The single contribution welcomes correction of an end user's initial allocation while proposing clearer language about contiguous expansion, unavailable adjacent space, and the choice to renumber earlier. It establishes a conditional design preference, not longitudinal consistency or endorsement of every provision.
Условия: The suggested wording is a proposal, not evidence that it was incorporated into an adopted text.
Me parece buena idea la propuesta, sin embargo, tengo una duda.
que si lo desea renumere ahora en lugar de luego
Modifying "Subsequent Allocation" for IPv6
Оценка: Недостаточно доказательств для оценки согласованности · The author advocates aligning subsequent IPv6 allocation criteria with the revised initial-allocation criteria so earlier recipients are not disadvantaged. Only one contribution is supplied, so persistence or reversal within this proposal cannot be assessed.
Условия: The quoted announcement distinguishes consensus from pending board ratification; the author's shorthand about approval does not prove implementation.
Mi propuesta simplemente incorpora *el mismo* texto que se aprob? para las distribuciones iniciales en las distribuciones subsiguientes
Simplifying the PDP (Mailing List + Forum Option)
Оценка: Недостаточно доказательств для оценки согласованности · This contribution supports a substantive rather than numerical understanding of consensus and associates that objective with the author's PDP proposal. It does not reproduce all the process provisions or provide a time series of positions on this proposal.
Условия: The definition quoted from the PDP is attributed material; the author's explicit endorsement is the evidence of his position. · No stance on an unrelated later proposal follows from the discussion.
para evitar que se entienda como "mas votos" a favor o "en contra", cuando en realidad quiere decir que no haya objeciones que no sean respondidas.
Оценка: Недостаточно доказательств для оценки согласованности · The author supports removing the IPv4 end-user multihoming requirement and explains that this component was split from a combined proposal after feedback. This single statement cannot show whether the position persisted or changed later.
Условия: The alignment with IPv6 is his stated rationale. · Neither the split nor the request for feedback establishes consensus on this component.
La LAC-2018-11, simplemente elimina el requisito de multihoming para IPv4 para ser usuario final
Оценка: Недостаточно доказательств для оценки согласованности · The author regards an explicit restart clause as redundant but accepts wording that restarts the eight-week discussion period in every case. Calling it a clarification while accepting it is not opposition, but one reply cannot establish consistency across subsequent revisions.
Условия: A proposed revision or offered new version is not proof of adoption. · The rule being discussed is a failed-consensus restart, not the length of last call.
Luego, bajo mi punto de vista, es *redundante* poner que se reinician los plazos.
En cualquier caso, se reiniciar?a el plazo de debate de 8 semanas.
Review and correction of errors in the IPv6 policy
Оценка: Недостаточно доказательств для оценки согласованности · The author supplies a comparison link and explains its colors to facilitate review. The message contains neither the comparison itself nor a substantive sequence of positions, so it cannot support a finding about consistency of the proposed IPv6 corrections.
Условия: Authorship and assistance with presentation are not endorsement of every unseen change.
La columna de la izquierda es el texto de la pol?tica actual (color rojo), y la de la derecha (color verde), como quedar?a con los cambios que propongo.
Registration and validation of abuse contact
Оценка: Согласованная · Across the discussion the author continues to seek registered, usable abuse contacts and periodic validation. He accepts clarification of validation triggers, discusses longer intervals and grace periods, and considers splitting disputed components. By September he favors stating the validation objective while leaving the operational procedure to LACNIC. Those are substantive refinements around a persistent objective.
Условия: The final interval and precise consequences of failed validation are not settled by these replies. · General agreement with a suggested revision does not adopt every sanction in the quoted reply. · Predictions of court victories and civil liability remain the author's historical claims, not verified legal conclusions.
Totalmente de acuerdo en lo que propones del punto 12.4
Que se verifican autom?ticamente cada cierto tiempo, con un proceso automatizado desde LACNIC
es mejor que el procedimiento lo defina LACNIC.
Registration and validation of abuse contact
Оценка: Согласованная · The objection to automated abuse contacts concerns systems that ignore email and force victims into incompatible forms. The author expressly supports automatic initial reports and automatic or semi-automatic processing that responds. Read together, the broad phrase against automation is qualified by this functional distinction, not a ban on all automation.
Условия: Claims about reporting volume, regional response rates, and negligible validation cost are not measured evidence in this corpus. · The proposal distinguishes common reporting access from the ISP's own contractual treatment of a customer.
eso implica que no sean automatizados
Lo razonable es que el primer contacto de abuso, por parte de la v?ctima, pueda ser procesado de forma autom?tica.
procesar ese email de forma autom?tica o semi-autom?tica y RESPONDEN.
Оценка: Согласованная · The author consistently prioritizes participation in consensus by the whole community. His initial list-only design would remove the expedited track, but he subsequently offers to retain forum presentation and the expedited process, or combine list and forum, if remote participants have equal standing. This is a conditional compromise, not abandonment of the objective.
Условия: The offered changes are not evidence that a revised text was actually published or approved. · Replacing the word discriminatory with exclusionary softens the description without removing the stated objection. · The illustrative participation percentages and accounts of prior forums are not independently verified measurements.
El objetivo es que el consenso se alcance en la lista, y no en el foro
y entonces mantener el proceso expeditivo
hacer que el consenso sea de lista+foro en lugar de solo lista o solo foro
Clarifications of Sub-Assignments
Оценка: Недостаточно доказательств для оценки согласованности · The author seeks an exception for temporary addressing of guests, employees or students while retaining the distinction from permanent connectivity service. He explicitly asks whether to cap that exception at a /64 or leave size open. Presenting these alternatives does not choose either one, and there is no later position here to compare.
Условия: Other regions are contextual references, not evidence that a particular LACNIC alternative was adopted.
La diferencia es limitar esto a un m?ximo de un /64, o dejarlo abierto.
Update to the Policy on IPv4 Assignments to End Users
Оценка: Согласованная · The May contribution defends avoiding disruptive end-user renumbering; the August explanation preserves that objective while describing the simplified transfer component after the multihoming question was separated. The split changes the packaging, not the stated purpose of enabling the existing user to keep its addressing.
Условия: The quoted participant's uncertainty is not the author's own neutral position. · An ISP proposal's reported consensus does not establish consensus for the end-user proposal.
un end-user puede tener requisitos que le impiden renumerar
un ISP "ceda" con un sistema simplificado de transferencias, el direccionamiento al usuario final que lo usa.
Update to the Policy on Initial IPv4 Allocations to ISPs
Оценка: Согласованная · The author repeatedly defends voluntary transfer of the same addressing to avoid renumbering and argues that the routing and cost consequences are comparable to ordinary transfers. The later offer to replace ceder with transferir makes his intended mechanism explicit rather than reversing it.
Условия: His routing-equivalence argument is contested advocacy, not an independently measured network outcome. · The half-joking routing-table remark is not a policy commitment; the rhetorical question about abolishing transfers is not a repeal proposal. · The participating organizations must agree and an authorized representative must approve; no unilateral right is asserted.
tiene que haber acuerdo entre ambas partes.
pero resuelve el problema de evitar la renumeraci?n.
poner transferir en lugar de ceder.
Оценка: Недостаточно доказательств для оценки согласованности · The author acknowledges missing a response deadline and agrees that further versions may be needed. This procedural exchange does not establish support for every chair-election provision, a substantive reversal, or a declaration of consensus.
Условия: A preference for immediate replies is not a position on each election rule. · A shared email subject does not by itself attribute a stance on another proposal.
Mi respuesta no negaba una versi?n 2 o 3 o las que hagan falta
Update to “Resource Recovery and Return” and consistency with the rest of the Manual
Оценка: Недостаточно доказательств для оценки согласованности · The author favors a side-by-side comparison tool, downloadable text and PDF, and room for exceptional formats. This is agreement about how to discuss a proposal, not evidence of support or opposition to its resource-recovery provisions or a later policy outcome.
Условия: No substantive recovery-rule consistency judgment can be inferred from agreement with the tooling suggestion.
Yo desde luego votar?a por un sistema que muestre ?lado a lado? en la web
Modify the size of initial IPv6 allocations · Modify the size of initial IPv6 allocations
Оценка: Согласованная · The separate-category and common-rule proposals are competing mechanisms for the same planning objective. The author expressly presents them as alternatives, then explains abandoning the more complex category approach after the common rule received community support. The record documents a reasoned change in preferred mechanism rather than simultaneous contradictory commitments.
Условия: A consistent objective does not mean identical eligibility criteria across the two designs. · The final implementation status is outside what these statements establish.
Mi idea es ofrecer AMBAS alternativas para que la comunidad decida.
esta pol?tica se abandona, porque el objetivo que persegu?a se cumple igualmente con la LAC-2016-7
Rectifying the size of initial allocations · MODIFYING INITIAL IPv6 ALLOCATIONS TO END USERS
Оценка: Согласованная · The initial-correction discussion explicitly leaves end-user inclusion open if cases are raised. The later welcome for an end-user correction mechanism is compatible with that openness and with the repeated concern about avoidable renumbering; it is not a reversal from categorical exclusion of end users.
Условия: The two proposals address different recipient classes. · The emails do not independently establish the frequency of end-user cases.
ser?a muy sencillo actualizar la propuesta para incluir ese caso.
Me parece buena idea la propuesta, sin embargo, tengo una duda.
Modify the size of initial IPv6 allocations · Modifying "Subsequent Allocation" for IPv6
Оценка: Согласованная · Support for a common initial-allocation rule is followed by advocacy of matching subsequent-allocation criteria, expressly to avoid disadvantaging earlier recipients. These are complementary positions on the same planning issue.
Условия: The comparison concerns the author's rationale, not proof of ratification or deployment.
v?lido para ambos casos.
dejar?a en desventaja a quien haya obtenido una distribuci?n inicial *antes* de la reciente aprobaci?n del cambio.
Rectifying the size of initial allocations · Modifying "Subsequent Allocation" for IPv6
Оценка: Согласованная · Saying the initial-correction proposal does not change subsequent allocations is a statement about that proposal's scope. Advocating a separate subsequent-allocation revision later does not contradict it or promise that the rules would never change.
Условия: Distinct proposals and dates must remain separate.
no cambiamos, con esta propuesta, subsiguientes asignaciones
el texto de subsiguientes distribuciones, al probarse este cambio, queda desfasado.
Reducing the last-call-for-comments period in LACNIC's Policy Development Process. · Simplification of the PDP
Оценка: Согласованная · The 2017 preference for list-based consensus carries into the later PDP redesign and its equal-participation rationale. Details do change: the earlier preference is 30 calendar days, while the later outline gives a four-week last call. The later emphasis on inclusion rather than speed narrows the stated priority without negating the earlier observation that meetings can delay a decision.
Условия: Do not describe the two timing specifications as identical. · The asserted benefits and participation problems are the author's reasoning, not measured causal findings.
creo que 30 d?as naturales ser?a suficiente y siempre m?s f?cil de contar.
ello permite participar a quienes no necesariamente viajan
un "last call" de 4 semanas
El objetivo principal es facilitar la participaci?n de *toda la comunidad* en igualdad de condiciones
Simplifying the PDP (Mailing List + Forum Option) · Simplification of the PDP
Оценка: Согласованная · The later explanation that consensus is not a count of votes matches the earlier PDP reform argument for evaluating substantive objections and including list participants. No reversal of that conception of consensus is shown.
Условия: Endorsement of this principle does not establish agreement with every procedural provision.
para evitar que se entienda como "mas votos" a favor o "en contra"
definir "consenso" (que no es un cuenteo de votos).
Update to the Policy on IPv4 Assignments to End Users · Update to the Policy on Initial IPv4 Allocations to ISPs
Оценка: Согласованная · Both the ISP and end-user discussions pursue retention of existing addressing through an agreed transfer to avoid renumbering. The author separates the recipient classes while using the same operational rationale; support in one discussion is not evidence of consensus in the other.
Условия: The effect on routing remains a debated claim.
un end-user puede tener requisitos que le impiden renumerar
pero resuelve el problema de evitar la renumeraci?n.
Remove the reference to an applicant's multihomed status from the policy on IPv4 assignments to end users · Update to the Policy on IPv4 Assignments to End Users
Оценка: Согласованная · The author explains dividing the combined end-user proposal into transfer and multihoming components after community feedback. Supporting both as separate proposals is coherent; it does not imply either had been adopted.
Условия: This is an explicitly described change in proposal structure, not an inferred change from a shared subject line.
afrontara cada problema con una propuesta especifica y as? lo hice ese mismo d?a.
La LAC-2018-11, simplemente elimina el requisito de multihoming para IPv4 para ser usuario final
Modify the size of initial IPv6 allocations · Clarifications of Sub-Assignments
Оценка: Согласованная · The earlier end-user/LIR distinction concerns assignment to separate institutions in a national network. The later sub-assignment clarification explicitly distinguishes temporary guest or employee connectivity from permanent service. These scopes can coexist; the later temporary-use exception does not establish that permanent distribution to other organizations was reclassified as end-user use.
Условия: The imprecise university wording in the earlier example remains an uncertainty, not a basis for a categorical identity rule. · The later message leaves the /64 size alternative undecided.
El gobierno aplicar?a por end user SI la asignaci?n de direcciones fuera SOLO a entidades de la MISMA entidad
Simplemente se considera que debe ser "temporal" y por tanto no un servicio de "banda ancha".
Review and correction of errors in the IPv6 policy · Update to “Resource Recovery and Return” and consistency with the rest of the Manual
Оценка: Согласованная · Providing a policy diff and later favoring side-by-side comparisons show a compatible preference for making textual changes easier to inspect. That narrow presentation preference supplies no evidence of consistency on the substantive IPv6 or resource-recovery provisions.
Условия: Only the presentation practice is compared here.
La columna de la izquierda es el texto de la pol?tica actual (color rojo)
Yo desde luego votar?a por un sistema que muestre ?lado a lado? en la web
- 18 апр. 2019 г. · Неизвестно
[LACNIC/Politicas] Nueva versión de la propuesta LAC-2018-13
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- lacnic-ietf-lac: Данные из источников собраны не полностью. · Сбор данных из заявленных источников ещё не завершён.
- lacnic-infofrida: Данные из источников собраны не полностью. · Сбор данных из заявленных источников ещё не завершён.
- lacnic-iot: Данные из источников собраны не полностью. · Сбор данных из заявленных источников ещё не завершён.
- lacnic-lacnog: Данные из источников собраны не полностью. · Сбор данных из заявленных источников ещё не завершён.
- lacnic-lactf: Данные из источников собраны не полностью. · Сбор данных из заявленных источников ещё не завершён.
- lacnic-seguridad: Данные из источников собраны не полностью. · Сбор данных из заявленных источников ещё не завершён.
