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PDP Chair Election Procedure

ابدأ من هنا للاطلاع على سجل كل مقترح على حدة: ما الذي تغيّر، ولماذا كان مهمًا، ومن دافع عن أي موقف، وكيف تطورت المواقف، وما الذي تقرر، وأين لا تزال هناك ثغرات في الأدلة.

حقائق موثقة

معرّف السياسة
LAC-2019-7
RIR
LACNIC
الحالة الرسمية
Abandoned
الحالة الموحّدة
متروكة
تاريخ الطرح
غير معروفة
آخر تحديث للمصادر
11‏/10‏/2026
التغطية
جزئية

من الذي شكّل النقاش فعلياً؟

3إجمالي المشاركين
3المساهمون في النقاش
1الجهات الرسمية
5رسائل النقاش
2.3المشاركون الفعليون
100‎%‎حصة أبرز خمسة مشاركين
1أشخاص يغطون 50٪
2أشخاص يغطون 80٪

تحليل BTW

تحليل BTW

ما الذي تغيّر

اقترح LAC-2019-7 تغيير إجراءات انتخاب رؤساء PDP. وتتضمن النسخ الثماني المحفوظة تعديلات جوهرية. تشترط النسخة الثامنة اشتراك المرشحين والناخبين في القائمة البريدية لمدة ستة أشهر، وتربط الترشيح بجهة اتصال العضوية في مؤسسة عضو، وتعالج تعارض المناصب والاستبعاد وإبطال الانتخابات. وتجعل مجلس الإدارة أعلى جهة استئناف في شؤون الانتخابات، مع إمكان تفويض الوظائف إلى لجنة انتخابية. وبالمقارنة مع النسخة السابعة، تعيد السماح بإعادة الانتخاب دون حد، وتضيّق حظر استخدام القائمة من الأغراض الانتخابية عموماً إلى الدعاية الانتخابية. هذه أحكام مقترحة وليست دليلاً على تطبيقها.

موضوع النقاش الفعلي

يدور الخلاف حول حماية الانتخابات دون نقل عملية مجتمعية مفتوحة إلى سيطرة مؤسسية أكبر. يطرح المقترح مزاعم تدخل ومخاطر احتيال، لكنه لا يثبتها بصورة مستقلة. يعارض أحد المشاركين، في ثلاث رسائل، التعقيد والمسؤوليات الإضافية للمجلس، مع إقراره بفائدة محتملة لشرط محدود يتعلق بمدة الاشتراك في القائمة. ويدعم مشارك آخر، بشروط، إجراءً واضحاً لنشر تأييد المرشحين، للحد أيضاً من اختلاق التأييد. أما الرد الثالث فيتناول الإجراءات والنسخ اللاحقة، ولا يثبت تأييداً موضوعياً للمقترح كله.

الحجج التي سادت

  • لا تحدد وثائق القرار المتاحة حجة انتصرت. التخلي عن المقترح لا يثبت أن الاعتراض على التعقيد أو السيطرة المؤسسية هو سبب النتيجة.

الحجج التي لم تسد

  • يسجل LACNIC المقترح بوصفه متروكاً، ولذلك لا تثبت هذه الأدلة اعتماد الإصلاح الكامل. كما لا تثبت رفض كل ضمانة منفردة على أساس مضمونها.

القرار والنقاش

تسجل صفحة LACNIC التخلي عن المقترح في 22 أغسطس 2022. وتمتد الرسائل الخمس المرتبطة به من مايو 2019 إلى يونيو 2020؛ فهي تثبت وجود نقاش قبل 2021، لكنها لا تفسر النتيجة اللاحقة. الرد الإجرائي والتأييد المشروط لآلية محددة ومعارضة التصميم العام مواقف مختلفة، ولا تمثل تصويتاً بسيطاً بالموافقة أو الرفض.

تركيز المشاركة

يضم النقاش المحفوظ خمس رسائل لثلاثة مشاركين خلال أربعة أيام نشاط. كتب شخص واحد ثلاث رسائل، أي 60%؛ وبلغ مؤشر HHI لحصص الرسائل 0.44، بما يعادل نحو 2.27 مشارك متساوي النشاط. تصف هذه الأرقام أدلة غير مكتملة، لا المجتمع كله ولا وزن الأصوات أو سلطة القرار. تكرار اعتراض شخص واحد لا يعني وجود ثلاثة معارضين مستقلين.

تحليل نقطة الاختناق

من شأن مدة الأشهر الستة والترشيح عبر جهات اتصال العضوية أن يحددا من يستطيع دخول الانتخابات. والاستبعاد بسبب الدعاية أو وجود مؤشرات كافية على الاحتيال يجعل تفسير القواعد وإنفاذها مؤثرين. دور المجلس كجهة استئناف نهائية يركز سلطة المراجعة، بينما يغيّر التفويض من يمارسها. وقد تخدم إعادة الانتخاب غير المحدودة الاستمرارية وشاغلي المناصب. هذه آليات وآثار محتملة للنص المقترح، وليست إثباتاً لإساءة فعلية أو لصلاحيات دخلت حيز التطبيق.

أوجه عدم اليقين

  • لم يتم التحقق من تاريخ التقديم الأول أو تواريخ نشر النسخ الثماني بدقة. تاريخ آخر تعديل للصفحة، 30 أغسطس 2021، لا يثبت أن المقترح أو جميع نسخه نشأت حينها.
  • لا تزال المناقشة الكاملة وأسباب التخلي غير متاحة؛ وقد تغير الأدلة اللاحقة تقييم المشاركة والعلاقة السببية.
  • تضررت بعض الحروف المشكّلة في الرسائل المحفوظة، وما زالت بعض الهويات العامة غير محسومة. لا يجوز إسناد الآراء المقتبسة إلى كاتب الرد.

تطور السياسة

2
متروكة · Abandoned
غير معروفة
حقائق موثقة ↗

PDP chair role incompatibilities · The proposed incompatibility rule changes from barring other positions within RIR/NIR, ICANN, TLD, or similar organizational structures to barring roles directly involved in any phase of the policy development process. The new wording also expressly provides that an elected candidate will cease in, or not assume, the incompatible role as specified in the nomination.

Candidate membership qualification and nomination support · Candidate qualification changes from being a LACNIC member or being supported by two LACNIC members to being the membership contact of a LACNIC member organization or being nominated by two such membership contacts.

Electoral use of the Public Policy List and disqualification · The rule requiring candidates to comply strictly with the AUP and allowing supporter AUP violations to disqualify a candidate is replaced by a rule under which electoral use of the list, including by candidate supporters, may result in disqualification at the chairs' discretion when there is evidence of collusion.

Fraud findings and invalidation of the election process · The fraud provision is revised to apply at any time during the process and expressly permits disqualification of implicated candidates or invalidation and repetition of the entire process. The revised text directs that the replacement timeline align the election results as closely as possible with the following Public Policy Forum.

Runoff election trigger · Runoff voting is expanded beyond a tie between leading candidates. In an election with more than two candidates, a runoff between the top two candidates is also required when the leading candidate's margin is less than 10%.

Assessment of post-result objections · The objection standard changes from assessing whether objections are significant to assessing whether they are both significant and proven. The ratification condition is also rephrased so ratification proceeds if no objections are raised or the chairs decide not to consider them.

Recusal of a chair who is a candidate · A candidate-chair's recusal expands from abstaining only as chair during ratification to abstaining from every aspect of the election process. The revised text additionally requires the Board of Directors to appoint one or two non-candidate community members, as applicable, to chair the process.

Election appeals · The supplied new text adds that the LACNIC Board of Directors is the highest instance of appeal for matters relating to the election process; the supplied old text contains no corresponding appeal provision.

3
متروكة · Abandoned
غير معروفة
حقائق موثقة ↗

Candidate nomination sponsorship · The candidate sponsorship alternative changes from nomination by "two membership contact" of a single LACNIC member organization to nomination by two membership contacts of LACNIC member organizations, clarifying that two contacts are required and allowing the wording to encompass multiple organizations.

Chair reelection eligibility · The old text says chairs are "illegible" to run again after a one-year pause; the new text says they are "eligible" to run again. This reverses the literal eligibility rule after the pause.

Voter eligibility and voter registry controls · The fixed rule allowing participation by anyone who had been on the Public Policy List for at least six months is replaced by a voter-registry anti-tampering provision under which efforts will be made to exclude election-only subscribers, with a subscription cutoff of an unspecified number of months offered as an example.

One-vote safeguard · The electronic-voting safeguard changes from an unqualified requirement to use mechanisms ensuring one vote per voter to a requirement to ensure this only "to the extent possible."

Electoral misuse of the Public Policy List · Disqualification for collusive electoral use of the list is no longer expressly stated to be at the discretion of the chairs; the new text retains possible disqualification where there is evidence of collusion without identifying that decision-maker in this provision.

Fraud findings and process invalidation authority · The old text expressly assigns the chairs responsibility for determining whether sufficient indications of fraud exist and authority to disqualify candidates or invalidate the process. The new text uses impersonal or passive language and no longer expressly assigns those decisions to the chairs.

Candidate acceptance announcement · The announcement provision changes from publishing the names of "acceptable candidates" to publishing the names of candidates who meet all requirements and have been accepted, expressly linking publication to satisfaction of the requirements and acceptance.

Community information about candidates and Board disqualification · The old text allows community submissions consisting of expressions of support and information for objections and requires simultaneous publication. The new text instead conditions publication on confirmation of the information and expressly authorizes the Board to disqualify one or more candidates based on that information.

Tie definition and runoff threshold · The old text triggers a runoff for an exact tie or, when there are more than two candidates, when the leading margin is below 10%. The new text defines any difference below 10% as a tie and provides for a runoff between the top two when there are more than two candidates.

Objections and ratification authority · Responsibility for receiving objections, assessing whether they are significant and proven, and ratifying the winner shifts from the acting chairs to the LACNIC Board.

Recusal and replacement when a chair is a candidate · The old text requires a chair who is running to abstain from every aspect of the election process and requires the Board to appoint one or two non-candidate community members to chair the process. The new text omits this recusal-and-replacement provision while assigning the objection and ratification decision to the Board.

4
متروكة · Abandoned
غير معروفة
حقائق موثقة ↗

Restrictions on the two PDP Chairs' affiliations · The restriction preventing both chairs from being from the same country was replaced by a restriction preventing them from being from the same company or the same or related companies. The former exception also specified how one chair would cease serving at the following election, while the replacement exception contains no corresponding cessation procedure.

Nature and compensation of Chair work · The positions were described as honorary; the replacement text expressly describes the work as voluntary and unpaid.

Candidate residency and member-contact nomination requirements · Candidate eligibility changed from being a LACNIC member-organization contact or being nominated by two such contacts to residing in the region for more than half the year and being either a member-organization contact or nominated by one such contact.

Voter-registry subscription cutoff · The illustrative cutoff based on subscribers who joined an unspecified “n” months before the process was replaced by a fixed requirement that subscribers have joined at least six months before the process.

Delegation of election-process functions · A provision was added allowing the Board of Directors to delegate its election-process functions to a Fiscal Commission or equivalent body; the prior text proceeded directly from the Board's appellate authority to additional information.

Implementation timetable · The timetable field changed from “Immediate implementation” to a dash, with no timetable value stated in the supplied replacement text.

5
متروكة · Abandoned
غير معروفة
حقائق موثقة ↗

PDP Chair candidate eligibility and nomination requirements · The candidate requirement no longer states that candidates must reside in the region more than 50% of the year. It instead requires a candidate to be the membership contact of a LACNIC member organization or to be nominated by such a membership contact.

PDP Chair re-election limits · The re-election rule changes from allowing only one consecutive term followed by a one-year pause to allowing re-election once and renewed eligibility after a period of at least one year.

6
متروكة · Abandoned
غير معروفة
حقائق موثقة ↗

Restrictions on chairs' country and organizational affiliation · The restriction changed from prohibiting chairs from the same or related companies to prohibiting chairs from the same country or from the same or related organizations, while retaining an exception when no other acceptable candidates exist.

Use of the Public Policy List for electoral purposes · The earlier text tied possible disqualification to electoral use of the list by persons supportive of a candidate where collusion was evidenced. The revised text expressly prohibits electoral use of the list, including expressions for or against candidates, and specifies that proven collusion with a candidate may disqualify that candidate.

Election process scheduling · The fixed schedule requiring a call for candidates on the first day of the month three full months before the term ends, with a 28-to-31-day nomination phase, was replaced by a requirement to begin sufficiently early to permit completion before the outgoing chair's term ends even if the process must be repeated.

Community information concerning candidates · The fixed ten-day community-information period, mandatory simultaneous publication of confirmed information, and resulting Board disqualification authority were replaced by a period of at least ten days for submitting relevant information to the Board, with the Board empowered to decide on its use, publication, and potential disqualification.

Voting period · The requirement that voting begin on the first working Monday after the preceding period and remain open for exactly seven calendar days was replaced by a requirement that voting remain open for no less than seven calendar days, without the prior Monday-based start rule.

Winner determination and runoff voting · The earlier rule treated a vote difference below 10% as a tie and conditionally required a runoff between the two leading candidates. The revised rule elects the candidate with the most votes, limits runoff voting to an actual tie between the two highest tied candidates, and requires the runoff to remain open for at least seven calendar days.

Announcement of voting results · The requirement for LACNIC to announce first-round and applicable runoff results immediately was replaced by a requirement to announce each voting round's result as soon as feasible.

7
متروكة · Abandoned
غير معروفة
حقائق موثقة ↗

Current-text vacancy replacement term · In the quoted current text, the prior statement that a person elected after a failed ratification serves only the remainder of the original term is replaced by a statement that the Board-appointed chair serves only until an election can be held and a winner ratified.

Incompatible roles for PDP Chairs · The proposed incompatibility rule is revised from roles involved in any phase of the policy-development process to roles directly involved in its flow, with the Electoral Commission and Board of Directors added as examples; the procedure for relinquishing an incompatible role is also rephrased.

Geographic and organizational diversity of Chairs · The proposed restriction preventing both Chairs from being from the same country or the same or related organizations, except when no other acceptable candidates exist, is removed.

Voter registry eligibility · The voter-registry rule changes from an effort-based mechanism intended to exclude election-only subscribers to a categorical statement that the registry comprises persons who subscribed at least six months before the election process began.

Use of the Public Policy List for electoral purposes · The blanket prohibition on electoral use of the list, including expressions for or against candidates, is replaced by a prohibition that expressly excepts LACNIC announcements. Candidate disqualification is changed from being tied to evidence of collusion to being a possible consequence of noncompliance generally.

Fraud remedies and repeat-election timing · The fraud provision is condensed. It retains possible candidate disqualification and election invalidation but removes the explicit requirement that LACNIC repeat the entire process and the requirement to align the repeated election results as closely as possible with the following Public Policy Forum.

Election scheduling, candidate publication, and community review · The proposed requirements to start elections sufficiently early for a repeat process, publish the accepted candidates, and provide at least ten calendar days for community submissions about candidates are removed.

Voting duration, winner determination, runoff, and result announcements · The proposed minimum seven-day voting period, highest-vote winner rule, minimum seven-day runoff procedure for ties, and prompt announcement of each voting round are removed.

Objections and Board ratification procedure · The proposed seven-day period for objections, Board assessment of whether objections are significant and proven, and express Board ratification of the winning candidate are removed.

Term following failed ratification or early vacancy · The prior proposal stated that the person elected after a failed ratification would serve only the remainder of the original term. The revised proposal instead states that the Board-appointed chair serves until an election can be held and a winner ratified, while retaining application of the mechanism to resignation or failure to perform responsibilities.

Delegation of Board election functions · The body to which the Board may delegate election-related functions is changed from a Fiscal Commission or equivalent to an Electoral Commission or equivalent.

8
متروكة · Abandoned
غير معروفة
حقائق موثقة ↗

PDP chair reelection eligibility · The reelection rule changed from allowing only one consecutive reelection followed by a waiting period of at least one year to allowing unlimited reelection.

Use of the Public Policy List during elections · The prohibited use of the list changed from the broader category of "electoral purposes" to "campaigning."

الخط الزمني للنقاش

  1. إصدار رسمي

    1

    متروكة · Abandoned

    حقائق موثقة ↗
  2. إصدار رسمي

    2

    متروكة · Abandoned

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  3. إصدار رسمي

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    متروكة · Abandoned

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  4. إصدار رسمي

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    متروكة · Abandoned

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  5. إصدار رسمي

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    متروكة · Abandoned

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  6. إصدار رسمي

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    متروكة · Abandoned

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  7. إصدار رسمي

    7

    متروكة · Abandoned

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  8. إصدار رسمي

    8

    متروكة · Abandoned

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  9. نقاش عام

    [LACNIC/Politicas] Nueva versión de la propuesta LAC-2019-7

    3 رسائل النقاش · 1 الكيانات

    حقائق موثقة ↗
  10. قرار رسمي

    abandoned

    abandoned

    حقائق موثقة ↗

الكيانات

حداثة البيانات: قديمة · آخر تحديث: · فشل التحديث الأخير. تظهر آخر نتيجة ناجحة.
  1. رسائل النقاش3
    أول نشاط29‏/06‏/2020
    آخر نشاط30‏/06‏/2020
    أول موقف صريحمعارضة
    أحدث موقف صريحمعارضة
    تغيرات الموقف0
    اتساق وجهة النظرمتسق
    سياسات أخرى5
  2. Arturo Servin · الهوية غير محسومة
    رسائل النقاش1
    أول نشاط15‏/05‏/2019
    آخر نشاط15‏/05‏/2019
    أول موقف صريحتأييد مع تعديلات
    أحدث موقف صريحتأييد مع تعديلات
    تغيرات الموقف0
    اتساق وجهة النظرالأدلة غير كافية لتقييم الاتساق
    سياسات أخرى10
  3. رسائل النقاش1
    أول نشاط24‏/06‏/2019
    آخر نشاط24‏/06‏/2019
    أول موقف صريحغير معروفة
    أحدث موقف صريحغير معروفة
    تغيرات الموقف0
    اتساق وجهة النظرمختلط
    سياسات أخرى39
    حداثة البيانات: قديمة · آخر تحديث: · فشل التحديث الأخير. تظهر آخر نتيجة ناجحة.

    آخر محاولة بحث: 17‏/09‏/2026

    تم التحقق من الهوية: 11‏/10‏/2026

    The IPv6 Company · تاريخي
    Name: Jordi Palet Martínez Email: [email protected] Organization: The IPv6 Company
    politicas.lacnic.net

    ملفات تعريفية عامة موثقة

    رسائل النقاش
    1
    أول نشاط
    24‏/06‏/2019
    آخر نشاط
    24‏/06‏/2019
    أول موقف صريح
    غير معروفة
    أحدث موقف صريح
    غير معروفة
    تغيرات الموقف
    0
    اتساق وجهة النظر
    مختلط
    سياسات أخرى
    39

    أول موقف صريح: غير معروفة → أحدث موقف صريح: غير معروفة · تغيرات الموقف: 0

    اتساق وجهة النظر: مختلط

    The main policy objectives remain coherent: usable address plans without avoidable renumbering, meaningful participation in consensus, and functional abuse contacts. The record also contains real, explained changes in mechanisms, including withdrawal of the separate non-ISP category in favor of a common allocation rule. One university example contains unresolved end-user classification language, so the record should not be described as uniformly consistent in every detail. Procedural replies and single contributions cannot establish a lasting substantive position, and quoted disagreements are not the author's own votes.

    Modify direct IPv6 address assignments to end users

    التقييم: الأدلة غير كافية لتقييم الاتساق · The author accepts clearer old-and-new text and a stronger rationale while deliberately separating the allocation-size question from the two changes being proposed. This one reply shows willingness to refine the proposal, but supplies no sequence from which to assess a reversal or durable consistency.

    الشروط: Support for this limited change does not endorse a separate size change or every later draft.

    Mi idea en esta propuesta es SOLO tocar los dos puntos indicados.

    Modify the size of initial IPv6 allocations

    التقييم: متسق · From March 2016 through May 2017 the author seeks an aggregated, realistic IPv6 plan for government and other nontraditional networks. His preferred mechanism evolves: he first argues for differentiated non-ISP treatment, offers an alternative at the community's request, and finally abandons this proposal because the common mechanism serves the same objective with less complexity. The withdrawal is explained rather than an unexplained rejection of the objective.

    الشروط: The initial willingness to withdraw depended on staff confirming that the existing rule already permitted the case; it was not an actual March withdrawal. · The later report of community consensus is not independent evidence of final ratification or implementation. · Claims about government allocations and regional experience are the author's examples and assertions.

    Y creo que no es conveniente tener tantas pol?ticas como ?casos?.

    Mi propuesta pretende aclarar esta situacion, con una categoria nueva diferente de ISP, aunque es muy similar a un ISP.

    que evitamos con un solo mecanismo para justificar los recursos

    Modify the size of initial IPv6 allocations

    التقييم: متسق · The November correction changes the stated horizon from the organization's life expectancy to the allocation's expected longevity. The author acknowledges an overlooked drafting error and explains why the latter better bounds the addressing plan. This is a real correction with an explanation, not evidence that every earlier version already said the same thing.

    الشروط: The author's account of his original intention cannot erase the earlier organization-longevity wording.

    El plan de direccionamiento ha de tener en cuenta la longevidad prevista de la organizaci?n.

    nunca fue la intenci?n que la longevidad fuera de la organizaci?n, sino de la distribuci?n inicial

    Modify the size of initial IPv6 allocations

    التقييم: مختلط · The August university example calls a university with several providers not an end user, yet immediately says each university could obtain its own /32 under the end-user policy. Elsewhere the distinction turns on assigning resources to separate organizations. The example therefore contains an unresolved classification ambiguity; it does not establish that multihoming alone changes an organization into an LIR.

    الشروط: This concerns the precision of the example, not a demonstrated reversal of the objective of aggregated national-network addressing. · No supplied follow-up expressly reconciles those two descriptions of the university.

    necesita direccionamiento propio y obviamente NO es un usuario final.

    Si aplican a la pol?tica de usuario final, podr?an obtener, cada una de ellas su propio /32.

    asignar direcciones? a terceros

    Modify the size of initial IPv6 allocations

    التقييم: متسق · The author presents the common ISP/LIR rule as an explicit alternative, explains its longer-horizon planning benefit, and later favors it over separate categories because it achieves the shared aim more simply. Offering two mutually exclusive community choices is not support for adopting conflicting rules simultaneously.

    الشروط: This entails a change from preserving the commercial-ISP time limit to accepting a common mechanism; the design preference did evolve. · The source describes community consensus, not proof of all subsequent implementation steps.

    Mi idea es ofrecer AMBAS alternativas para que la comunidad decida.

    Por supuesto que la idea no es que se aprueben las dos, sino una u otra.

    v?lido para ambos casos.

    Rectifying the size of initial allocations

    التقييم: متسق · The sequence consistently supports a one-time correction of an inadequate initial IPv6 allocation to avoid renumbering. It preserves the ordinary subsequent-allocation procedure, acknowledges that contiguous space may not remain available, and leaves end-user inclusion open if relevant cases are presented. Encouraging discussion is separate from this substantive advocacy.

    الشروط: The residential /64 remark is a reductio, not a recommendation to reduce customer assignments. · The /33 example and worldwide adoption fraction are not independently established technical or statistical evidence. · Future contiguous allocations are not guaranteed.

    No se trata de evitar que haya ?nuevas asignaciones? en el futuro, pero si dar la oportunidad de ?corregir? la primera por una sola vez.

    ser?a muy sencillo actualizar la propuesta para incluir ese caso.

    ahora pague por ello el cliente.

    Reducing the last-call-for-comments period in LACNIC's Policy Development Process.

    التقييم: متسق · The author repeats a preference for 30 calendar days, finds discretionary chair-adjusted intervals too subjective, and then proposes a broader list-based consensus process. The broader process discussion does not endorse the specific 20-day option or retract the stated 30-day preference within this exchange.

    الشروط: The comparative timing list is supplied by another participant. · The claimed benefits of avoiding meeting delays are advocacy, not measured outcomes.

    creo que 30 d?as naturales ser?a suficiente y siempre m?s f?cil de contar.

    Me refuerza en mi punto de vista de 30 d?as.

    la decisi?n del consenso (igual que en IETF) se toma en la lista, no en el meeting

    MODIFYING INITIAL IPv6 ALLOCATIONS TO END USERS

    التقييم: الأدلة غير كافية لتقييم الاتساق · The single contribution welcomes correction of an end user's initial allocation while proposing clearer language about contiguous expansion, unavailable adjacent space, and the choice to renumber earlier. It establishes a conditional design preference, not longitudinal consistency or endorsement of every provision.

    الشروط: The suggested wording is a proposal, not evidence that it was incorporated into an adopted text.

    Me parece buena idea la propuesta, sin embargo, tengo una duda.

    que si lo desea renumere ahora en lugar de luego

    Modifying "Subsequent Allocation" for IPv6

    التقييم: الأدلة غير كافية لتقييم الاتساق · The author advocates aligning subsequent IPv6 allocation criteria with the revised initial-allocation criteria so earlier recipients are not disadvantaged. Only one contribution is supplied, so persistence or reversal within this proposal cannot be assessed.

    الشروط: The quoted announcement distinguishes consensus from pending board ratification; the author's shorthand about approval does not prove implementation.

    Mi propuesta simplemente incorpora *el mismo* texto que se aprob? para las distribuciones iniciales en las distribuciones subsiguientes

    Simplifying the PDP (Mailing List + Forum Option)

    التقييم: الأدلة غير كافية لتقييم الاتساق · This contribution supports a substantive rather than numerical understanding of consensus and associates that objective with the author's PDP proposal. It does not reproduce all the process provisions or provide a time series of positions on this proposal.

    الشروط: The definition quoted from the PDP is attributed material; the author's explicit endorsement is the evidence of his position. · No stance on an unrelated later proposal follows from the discussion.

    para evitar que se entienda como "mas votos" a favor o "en contra", cuando en realidad quiere decir que no haya objeciones que no sean respondidas.

    Remove the reference to an applicant's multihomed status from the policy on IPv4 assignments to end users

    التقييم: الأدلة غير كافية لتقييم الاتساق · The author supports removing the IPv4 end-user multihoming requirement and explains that this component was split from a combined proposal after feedback. This single statement cannot show whether the position persisted or changed later.

    الشروط: The alignment with IPv6 is his stated rationale. · Neither the split nor the request for feedback establishes consensus on this component.

    La LAC-2018-11, simplemente elimina el requisito de multihoming para IPv4 para ser usuario final

    Minor revision to the PDP

    التقييم: الأدلة غير كافية لتقييم الاتساق · The author regards an explicit restart clause as redundant but accepts wording that restarts the eight-week discussion period in every case. Calling it a clarification while accepting it is not opposition, but one reply cannot establish consistency across subsequent revisions.

    الشروط: A proposed revision or offered new version is not proof of adoption. · The rule being discussed is a failed-consensus restart, not the length of last call.

    Luego, bajo mi punto de vista, es *redundante* poner que se reinician los plazos.

    En cualquier caso, se reiniciar?a el plazo de debate de 8 semanas.

    Review and correction of errors in the IPv6 policy

    التقييم: الأدلة غير كافية لتقييم الاتساق · The author supplies a comparison link and explains its colors to facilitate review. The message contains neither the comparison itself nor a substantive sequence of positions, so it cannot support a finding about consistency of the proposed IPv6 corrections.

    الشروط: Authorship and assistance with presentation are not endorsement of every unseen change.

    La columna de la izquierda es el texto de la pol?tica actual (color rojo), y la de la derecha (color verde), como quedar?a con los cambios que propongo.

    Registration and validation of abuse contact

    التقييم: متسق · Across the discussion the author continues to seek registered, usable abuse contacts and periodic validation. He accepts clarification of validation triggers, discusses longer intervals and grace periods, and considers splitting disputed components. By September he favors stating the validation objective while leaving the operational procedure to LACNIC. Those are substantive refinements around a persistent objective.

    الشروط: The final interval and precise consequences of failed validation are not settled by these replies. · General agreement with a suggested revision does not adopt every sanction in the quoted reply. · Predictions of court victories and civil liability remain the author's historical claims, not verified legal conclusions.

    Totalmente de acuerdo en lo que propones del punto 12.4

    Que se verifican autom?ticamente cada cierto tiempo, con un proceso automatizado desde LACNIC

    es mejor que el procedimiento lo defina LACNIC.

    Registration and validation of abuse contact

    التقييم: متسق · The objection to automated abuse contacts concerns systems that ignore email and force victims into incompatible forms. The author expressly supports automatic initial reports and automatic or semi-automatic processing that responds. Read together, the broad phrase against automation is qualified by this functional distinction, not a ban on all automation.

    الشروط: Claims about reporting volume, regional response rates, and negligible validation cost are not measured evidence in this corpus. · The proposal distinguishes common reporting access from the ISP's own contractual treatment of a customer.

    eso implica que no sean automatizados

    Lo razonable es que el primer contacto de abuso, por parte de la v?ctima, pueda ser procesado de forma autom?tica.

    procesar ese email de forma autom?tica o semi-autom?tica y RESPONDEN.

    Simplification of the PDP

    التقييم: متسق · The author consistently prioritizes participation in consensus by the whole community. His initial list-only design would remove the expedited track, but he subsequently offers to retain forum presentation and the expedited process, or combine list and forum, if remote participants have equal standing. This is a conditional compromise, not abandonment of the objective.

    الشروط: The offered changes are not evidence that a revised text was actually published or approved. · Replacing the word discriminatory with exclusionary softens the description without removing the stated objection. · The illustrative participation percentages and accounts of prior forums are not independently verified measurements.

    El objetivo es que el consenso se alcance en la lista, y no en el foro

    y entonces mantener el proceso expeditivo

    hacer que el consenso sea de lista+foro en lugar de solo lista o solo foro

    Clarifications of Sub-Assignments

    التقييم: الأدلة غير كافية لتقييم الاتساق · The author seeks an exception for temporary addressing of guests, employees or students while retaining the distinction from permanent connectivity service. He explicitly asks whether to cap that exception at a /64 or leave size open. Presenting these alternatives does not choose either one, and there is no later position here to compare.

    الشروط: Other regions are contextual references, not evidence that a particular LACNIC alternative was adopted.

    La diferencia es limitar esto a un m?ximo de un /64, o dejarlo abierto.

    Update to the Policy on IPv4 Assignments to End Users

    التقييم: متسق · The May contribution defends avoiding disruptive end-user renumbering; the August explanation preserves that objective while describing the simplified transfer component after the multihoming question was separated. The split changes the packaging, not the stated purpose of enabling the existing user to keep its addressing.

    الشروط: The quoted participant's uncertainty is not the author's own neutral position. · An ISP proposal's reported consensus does not establish consensus for the end-user proposal.

    un end-user puede tener requisitos que le impiden renumerar

    un ISP "ceda" con un sistema simplificado de transferencias, el direccionamiento al usuario final que lo usa.

    Update to the Policy on Initial IPv4 Allocations to ISPs

    التقييم: متسق · The author repeatedly defends voluntary transfer of the same addressing to avoid renumbering and argues that the routing and cost consequences are comparable to ordinary transfers. The later offer to replace ceder with transferir makes his intended mechanism explicit rather than reversing it.

    الشروط: His routing-equivalence argument is contested advocacy, not an independently measured network outcome. · The half-joking routing-table remark is not a policy commitment; the rhetorical question about abolishing transfers is not a repeal proposal. · The participating organizations must agree and an authorized representative must approve; no unilateral right is asserted.

    tiene que haber acuerdo entre ambas partes.

    pero resuelve el problema de evitar la renumeraci?n.

    poner transferir en lugar de ceder.

    PDP Chair Election Procedure

    التقييم: الأدلة غير كافية لتقييم الاتساق · The author acknowledges missing a response deadline and agrees that further versions may be needed. This procedural exchange does not establish support for every chair-election provision, a substantive reversal, or a declaration of consensus.

    الشروط: A preference for immediate replies is not a position on each election rule. · A shared email subject does not by itself attribute a stance on another proposal.

    Mi respuesta no negaba una versi?n 2 o 3 o las que hagan falta

    Update to “Resource Recovery and Return” and consistency with the rest of the Manual

    التقييم: الأدلة غير كافية لتقييم الاتساق · The author favors a side-by-side comparison tool, downloadable text and PDF, and room for exceptional formats. This is agreement about how to discuss a proposal, not evidence of support or opposition to its resource-recovery provisions or a later policy outcome.

    الشروط: No substantive recovery-rule consistency judgment can be inferred from agreement with the tooling suggestion.

    Yo desde luego votar?a por un sistema que muestre ?lado a lado? en la web

    Modify the size of initial IPv6 allocations · Modify the size of initial IPv6 allocations

    التقييم: متسق · The separate-category and common-rule proposals are competing mechanisms for the same planning objective. The author expressly presents them as alternatives, then explains abandoning the more complex category approach after the common rule received community support. The record documents a reasoned change in preferred mechanism rather than simultaneous contradictory commitments.

    الشروط: A consistent objective does not mean identical eligibility criteria across the two designs. · The final implementation status is outside what these statements establish.

    Mi idea es ofrecer AMBAS alternativas para que la comunidad decida.

    esta pol?tica se abandona, porque el objetivo que persegu?a se cumple igualmente con la LAC-2016-7

    Rectifying the size of initial allocations · MODIFYING INITIAL IPv6 ALLOCATIONS TO END USERS

    التقييم: متسق · The initial-correction discussion explicitly leaves end-user inclusion open if cases are raised. The later welcome for an end-user correction mechanism is compatible with that openness and with the repeated concern about avoidable renumbering; it is not a reversal from categorical exclusion of end users.

    الشروط: The two proposals address different recipient classes. · The emails do not independently establish the frequency of end-user cases.

    ser?a muy sencillo actualizar la propuesta para incluir ese caso.

    Me parece buena idea la propuesta, sin embargo, tengo una duda.

    Modify the size of initial IPv6 allocations · Modifying "Subsequent Allocation" for IPv6

    التقييم: متسق · Support for a common initial-allocation rule is followed by advocacy of matching subsequent-allocation criteria, expressly to avoid disadvantaging earlier recipients. These are complementary positions on the same planning issue.

    الشروط: The comparison concerns the author's rationale, not proof of ratification or deployment.

    v?lido para ambos casos.

    dejar?a en desventaja a quien haya obtenido una distribuci?n inicial *antes* de la reciente aprobaci?n del cambio.

    Rectifying the size of initial allocations · Modifying "Subsequent Allocation" for IPv6

    التقييم: متسق · Saying the initial-correction proposal does not change subsequent allocations is a statement about that proposal's scope. Advocating a separate subsequent-allocation revision later does not contradict it or promise that the rules would never change.

    الشروط: Distinct proposals and dates must remain separate.

    no cambiamos, con esta propuesta, subsiguientes asignaciones

    el texto de subsiguientes distribuciones, al probarse este cambio, queda desfasado.

    Reducing the last-call-for-comments period in LACNIC's Policy Development Process. · Simplification of the PDP

    التقييم: متسق · The 2017 preference for list-based consensus carries into the later PDP redesign and its equal-participation rationale. Details do change: the earlier preference is 30 calendar days, while the later outline gives a four-week last call. The later emphasis on inclusion rather than speed narrows the stated priority without negating the earlier observation that meetings can delay a decision.

    الشروط: Do not describe the two timing specifications as identical. · The asserted benefits and participation problems are the author's reasoning, not measured causal findings.

    creo que 30 d?as naturales ser?a suficiente y siempre m?s f?cil de contar.

    ello permite participar a quienes no necesariamente viajan

    un "last call" de 4 semanas

    El objetivo principal es facilitar la participaci?n de *toda la comunidad* en igualdad de condiciones

    Simplifying the PDP (Mailing List + Forum Option) · Simplification of the PDP

    التقييم: متسق · The later explanation that consensus is not a count of votes matches the earlier PDP reform argument for evaluating substantive objections and including list participants. No reversal of that conception of consensus is shown.

    الشروط: Endorsement of this principle does not establish agreement with every procedural provision.

    para evitar que se entienda como "mas votos" a favor o "en contra"

    definir "consenso" (que no es un cuenteo de votos).

    Update to the Policy on IPv4 Assignments to End Users · Update to the Policy on Initial IPv4 Allocations to ISPs

    التقييم: متسق · Both the ISP and end-user discussions pursue retention of existing addressing through an agreed transfer to avoid renumbering. The author separates the recipient classes while using the same operational rationale; support in one discussion is not evidence of consensus in the other.

    الشروط: The effect on routing remains a debated claim.

    un end-user puede tener requisitos que le impiden renumerar

    pero resuelve el problema de evitar la renumeraci?n.

    Remove the reference to an applicant's multihomed status from the policy on IPv4 assignments to end users · Update to the Policy on IPv4 Assignments to End Users

    التقييم: متسق · The author explains dividing the combined end-user proposal into transfer and multihoming components after community feedback. Supporting both as separate proposals is coherent; it does not imply either had been adopted.

    الشروط: This is an explicitly described change in proposal structure, not an inferred change from a shared subject line.

    afrontara cada problema con una propuesta especifica y as? lo hice ese mismo d?a.

    La LAC-2018-11, simplemente elimina el requisito de multihoming para IPv4 para ser usuario final

    Modify the size of initial IPv6 allocations · Clarifications of Sub-Assignments

    التقييم: متسق · The earlier end-user/LIR distinction concerns assignment to separate institutions in a national network. The later sub-assignment clarification explicitly distinguishes temporary guest or employee connectivity from permanent service. These scopes can coexist; the later temporary-use exception does not establish that permanent distribution to other organizations was reclassified as end-user use.

    الشروط: The imprecise university wording in the earlier example remains an uncertainty, not a basis for a categorical identity rule. · The later message leaves the /64 size alternative undecided.

    El gobierno aplicar?a por end user SI la asignaci?n de direcciones fuera SOLO a entidades de la MISMA entidad

    Simplemente se considera que debe ser "temporal" y por tanto no un servicio de "banda ancha".

    Review and correction of errors in the IPv6 policy · Update to “Resource Recovery and Return” and consistency with the rest of the Manual

    التقييم: متسق · Providing a policy diff and later favoring side-by-side comparisons show a compatible preference for making textual changes easier to inspect. That narrow presentation preference supplies no evidence of consistency on the substantive IPv6 or resource-recovery provisions.

    الشروط: Only the presentation practice is compared here.

    La columna de la izquierda es el texto de la pol?tica actual (color rojo)

    Yo desde luego votar?a por un sistema que muestre ?lado a lado? en la web

    1. 24‏/06‏/2019 · إجرائي أو محايد

      [LACNIC/Politicas] 2019-6, 2019-7 - Fin discusión inicial / Fin discussão inicial / End initial discussion

      "o?do cocina", es decir, concuerdo contigo. Mi respuesta no negaba una versi?n 2 o 3 o las que hagan falta, sino aclaraba que son mensajes del procedimiento. … Estamos "in-sync".

      حقائق موثقة ↗

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